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Nvidia announces next-gen RTX 5090 and RTX 5080 GPUs

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Re: Nvidia announces next-gen RTX 5090 and RTX 5080 GPUs

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Post by knallfrosch »

dagmx wrote: post #49
jmyeet wrote: post #46

The interesting part to me was that Nvidia claim the new 5070 will have 4090 level performance for a much lower price ($549). Less memory however. If that holds up in the benchmarks, this is a nice jump for a generation. I agree with others that more memory would've been nice, but it's clear Nvidia are trying to segment their SKUs into AI and non-AI models and using RAM to do it. That might not be such a bad outcome…

That claim is with a heavy asterisk of using DLSS4. Without DLSS4, it’s looking to be a 1.2-1.3x jump over the 4070.

Do games need to implement something on their side to get DLSS4?

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Post by archagon »

Our_Benefactors wrote: post #24
ericfrederich wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

4k gaming is dumb. I watched a LTT video that came out today where Linus said he primarily uses gaming monitors and doesn't mess with 4k.

There are good 4K gaming monitors, but they start at over $1200 and if you don't also have a 4090 tier rig, you won’t be able to get full FPS out of AAA games at 4k.

I still have a 3080 and game at 4K/120Hz. Most AAA games that I try can pull 60-90Hz at ~4K if DLSS is available.

Re: Nvidia announces next-gen RTX 5090 and RTX 5080 GPUs

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Post by sliken »

gregoryl wrote: post #79
ryao wrote: post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The 3090 and 3090 Ti both support software ECC. I assume that the 4090 has it too. That alone positions the xx90 as a pseudo-professional card.

The 4090 indeed does have ecc support

Yes, but ECC is inline, so it costs bandwidth and memory capacity.

Re: Nvidia announces next-gen RTX 5090 and RTX 5080 GPUs

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Post by dijit »

ziml77 wrote: post #55
paxys wrote: post #14

Even though they are all marketed as gaming cards, Nvidia is now very clearly differentiating between 5070/5070 Ti/5080 for mid-high end gaming and 5090 for consumer/entry-level AI. The gap between xx80 and xx90 is going to be too wide for regular gamers to cross this generation.

The 4090 already seemed positioned as a card for consumer AI enthusiast workloads. But this $1000 price gap between the 5080 and 5090 seems to finally cement that. Though we're probably still going to see tons of tech YouTubers making videos specifically about how the 5090 isn't a good value for gaming as if it even matters. The people who want to spend $2000 on a GPU for gaming don't care about the value and everyon…

From all the communication I’ve had with Nvidia, the prevailing sentiment was that the 4090 was an 8K card, that happened to be good for AI due to vram requirements from 8K gaming.

However, I’m a AAA gamedev CTO and they might have been telling me what the card means to me.

Re: Nvidia announces next-gen RTX 5090 and RTX 5080 GPUs

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Post by arvinsim »

friedtofu wrote: post #62

As a lifelong nvidia consumer, I think it's a safe bet to ride out the first wave of 5xxx series GPUs and wait for the inevitable 5080/5070 (GT/Ti/Super/whatever) that should release a few months after with similar specs and better performance based on whatever the complaints surrounding the initial GPUs lacked. I would expect something like the 5080 super will have something like 20/24Gb of VRAM. 16Gb just seems wro…

I made the mistake of not waiting befpre.

This time around, I will save for the 5090 or just wait for the Ti/Super refreshes.

Re: Nvidia announces next-gen RTX 5090 and RTX 5080 GPUs

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Post by angled »

ziml77 wrote: post #55
paxys wrote: post #14

Even though they are all marketed as gaming cards, Nvidia is now very clearly differentiating between 5070/5070 Ti/5080 for mid-high end gaming and 5090 for consumer/entry-level AI. The gap between xx80 and xx90 is going to be too wide for regular gamers to cross this generation.

The 4090 already seemed positioned as a card for consumer AI enthusiast workloads. But this $1000 price gap between the 5080 and 5090 seems to finally cement that. Though we're probably still going to see tons of tech YouTubers making videos specifically about how the 5090 isn't a good value for gaming as if it even matters. The people who want to spend $2000 on a GPU for gaming don't care about the value and everyon…

I wonder if these will be region-locked (eg, not for HK SAR).

Re: Nvidia announces next-gen RTX 5090 and RTX 5080 GPUs

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Post by archagon »

sliken wrote: post #80
archagon wrote: post #77

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Fantastic news for the SFF community. (Looks like Nvidia even advertises an "SFF-Ready" label for cards that are small enough: https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/news/small-form-factor-... )

Not really, 575 watts for the GPU is going to make it tough to cool or provide power for.

There are 1000W SFX-L (and probably SFX) PSUs out there, and console-style cases provide basically perfect cooling through the sides. The limiting factor really is slot width.

(But I'm more eyeing the 5080, since 360W is pretty easy to power and cool for most SFF setups.)

Re: Nvidia announces next-gen RTX 5090 and RTX 5080 GPUs

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Post by lordofgibbons »

ryao wrote: post #66
stego-tech wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Honestly, with how fast memory is being consumed nowadays and the increased focus on frame generation/interpolation vs “full frames”, I’ll keep my 3090 a little longer instead of upgrading to a 5080 or 5090. It’s not the fastest, but it’s a solid card even in 2025 for 1440p RT gaming on a VRR display, and the memory lets me tinker with LLMs without breaking a sweat. If DLSS4 and “MOAR POWAH” are the only things on of…

Pricing for the next generation might be somewhat better if Nvidia switches to Samsung for 2nm like the rumors suggest: https://wccftech.com/nvidia-is-rumored-to-switch-towards-sam... Coincidentally, the 3090 was made using Samsung's 8nm process. You would be going from one Samsung fabricated GPU to another.

NVidia's pricing isn't based on how much it takes to produce their cards, but since they have no competition, it's purely based on how much consumers are grudgingly willing to pay up. If AMD continues to sleep, they'll sale these cards for the same price, even if they could produce them for free.

Re: Nvidia announces next-gen RTX 5090 and RTX 5080 GPUs

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Post by lz400 »

paxys wrote: post #14

Even though they are all marketed as gaming cards, Nvidia is now very clearly differentiating between 5070/5070 Ti/5080 for mid-high end gaming and 5090 for consumer/entry-level AI. The gap between xx80 and xx90 is going to be too wide for regular gamers to cross this generation.

How will a 5090 compare against project digits? now that they're both in the front page :)
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