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38th Chaos Communication Congress

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Re: 38th Chaos Communication Congress

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There is affordable accomodation: nearby gymnasiums where you bring a "bed" and "duvet" and "towel+shampoo" and get by with like 5 bucks a night.

I dont think thats for everyone. Speaking as someone who has done it.

It's an option for those on a tight budget aka "beggars can't be choosers". Hotels are a lot cheaper if you book a (fully) refundable stay months in advance instead of waiting until you have a ticket.

Re: 38th Chaos Communication Congress

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What talks are people most interested in? It looks like Joscha Bach [0] is continuing his "From Computation to Consciousness" series. I've enjoyed some of his older talks so I'll probably check out this new entry as well. A few of the science talks related to biology also seem really interesting, although it reminds me of how much I'm lacking in understanding and knowledge of the topic. It looks like there's a big fo…

I would expect most of them bring critical and sceptical about AI, just like the general vibe here on HN.

Re: 38th Chaos Communication Congress

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Perhaps it's important to point out that socialism != communism. I think this is something the US really doesn't understand about Europe. Socialism is about putting people first and making sure no one is left behind by society, which is the opposite of communism (and capitalism). In fact, US capitalism is much closer to communism regarding societal outcomes (social injustice, power concentration) than European social…

> Socialism is about putting people first and making sure no one is left behind by society No, that's not what socialism is but I won't develop here because the definition is so available and well-known.

You may want to look into the ideologies of European political parties that have "socialist" in their names, instead of relying on definitions from the Soviet revolution.

Socialism in Europe is social democracy. The only difference between "socialist" and "social democratic" parties in Europe is how fractionally close to the right or left side of the center line they are.

Re: 38th Chaos Communication Congress

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I love watching CCC every years though I rarely catch it live. Since we have a couple of days to wait for this year's talk, I'll ask. Does it bother anyone else that some talks are in German, or does it bother anyone else that they find themselves bothered that the talks are in German? I love all languages great and small, natural and formal and so I'm conflicted on subjects like this. I find young German speakers to…

There is a realtime translation team that's available as an audio track in the life streams as. The translation is done be volunteers. The last ~5 years they managed to translate all the German and English slots on the official stages. Some less common language options may be provided later e.g. Spanish, French, Chinese, funni dialects like Plattdeutsch, etc.

Re: 38th Chaos Communication Congress

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Hi, I'm a long standing CCC interpreter (volunteer of course). We aim to interpret live 100% of the talks in German (* we do not always interpret things that aren't strictly speaking talks, like poetry readings or performance art, although we try to make these as accessible as we can). We also interpret various talks into other languages - we have a sizeable team working on French and Spanish interpretation, and depe…

Thank you, I didn't realize this existed. I have accessibility needs (screen reader user) that make subtitles less fun to use than they would otherwise be, and I speak no German, so those interpreted recordings would be really great for me. I assume you don't publish on Youtube? That's how I usually consume CCC content, mostly due to YT's recommendation algorithms and excellent cross-device "continue playback" suppor…

The CCC is a big believer in self hosting there is a live streaming platform during the event and media.ccc.de afterwards.

Re: 38th Chaos Communication Congress

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I have yet to see someone advocating for actual socialism. There is a huge difference between social democracy and socialism, but it's a popular argumentation technique in the US to pretend that they are the same.

There are socialist parties in every European countries, and some of them get a lot of votes. In Germany, Die Linke is anti-capitalist and advocates "actual socialism" and current has 39 MPs in the Bundestag. In France, LFI (France Unbowed) is anti-capitalist and advocates "actual socialism" and currently has 71 MPs in the French parliament (second largest party by number of MPs...). There are also several smaller pa…

For the US reader:

> 39 MPs in the Bundestag

Out of currently 733 MPs with a parliament with "proportional representation", where the number of seats is proportional to the number of votes (Germany-wide, not local). Die Linke thus has 5.3% seats in the Bundestag. Thus this is not "a lot of votes" in relation to the voting population.

> "anti-capitalist" (which seems to be more popular than claiming to be socialist)

Anti-capitalism is found in right-wing parties, too. Like the German AFD.

Re: 38th Chaos Communication Congress

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I love watching CCC every years though I rarely catch it live. Since we have a couple of days to wait for this year's talk, I'll ask. Does it bother anyone else that some talks are in German, or does it bother anyone else that they find themselves bothered that the talks are in German? I love all languages great and small, natural and formal and so I'm conflicted on subjects like this. I find young German speakers to…

It is a German conference. It was started by Germans. It is organized first and foremost by Germans. It happens in Germany.

I find it arrogant to think that presenters should speak a language other than German.

Re: 38th Chaos Communication Congress

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post #67

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Perhaps it's important to point out that socialism != communism. I think this is something the US really doesn't understand about Europe. Socialism is about putting people first and making sure no one is left behind by society, which is the opposite of communism (and capitalism). In fact, US capitalism is much closer to communism regarding societal outcomes (social injustice, power concentration) than European social…

> Socialism is about putting people first and making sure no one is left behind by society No, that's not what socialism is but I won't develop here because the definition is so available and well-known.

The SPD in Germany claims the following:

https://www.spd.de/programm/grundsatzprogramm

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Demokratischer Sozialismus

Unsere Geschichte ist geprägt von der Idee des demokratischen Sozialismus, einer Gesellschaft der Freien und Gleichen, in der unsere Grundwerte verwirklicht sind. Sie verlangt eine Ordnung von Wirtschaft, Staat und Gesellschaft, in der die bürgerlichen, politischen, sozialen und wirtschaftlichen Grundrechte für alle Menschen garantiert sind, alle Menschen ein Leben ohne Ausbeutung, Unterdrückung und Gewalt, also in sozialer und menschlicher Sicherheit führen können.

Das Ende des Staatssozialismus sowjetischer Prägung hat die Idee des demokratischen Sozialismus nicht widerlegt, sondern die Orientierung der Sozialdemokratie an Grundwerten eindrucksvoll bestätigt. Der demokratische Sozialismus bleibt für uns die Vision einer freien, gerechten und solidarischen Gesellschaft, deren Verwirklichung für uns einedauernde Aufgabe ist. Das Prinzip unseres Handelns ist die soziale Demokratie.

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Re: 38th Chaos Communication Congress

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If you are part of a hacker space you could always get tickets through that quite easily. I think it’s great that they are supporting their original core audience like that.

Those hacker spaces only get a limited contingent too, and the hacker space will expect you to help set up their assembly if you get the ticket through them.

> and the hacker space will expect you to help set up their assembly if you get the ticket through them.

I don’t think that it is bad to demand that. The whole event is organized by volunteers and it is massive yet well done. I have been a volunteer too.

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