Ten Years of JMAP • Hacker News Board

Re: Ten Years of JMAP

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Post by Mailtemi » Fri, Dec 27, 2024, 6:24 PM UTC

radicality wrote: post #80

Mailtemi wrote: post #74

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I'm actually working on this ( https://mailtemi.com/blog/storage-redesign/ ). After pushing Mailtemi on Android, I will continue working on full offline support.

That’s awesome, will check it out!

This is just a step toward offline support. It's not available yet, because Android comes first.

The app is ready for offline use, but I don't want to implement it without 'full text search.' I plan to use SQLite FTS5. My initial tests with search show that offline search is storage-expensive, which could be problematic for mobile devices. So, the edge cases have started to appear. But it's the most requested feature, and the most interesting/challenging to me :)

Re: Ten Years of JMAP

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Post by radicality » Fri, Dec 27, 2024, 7:40 PM UTC

Mailtemi wrote: post #81

radicality wrote: post #80

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That’s awesome, will check it out!

This is just a step toward offline support. It's not available yet, because Android comes first. The app is ready for offline use, but I don't want to implement it without 'full text search.' I plan to use SQLite FTS5. My initial tests with search show that offline search is storage-expensive, which could be problematic for mobile devices. So, the edge cases have started to appear. But it's the most requested feature…

Yeah for high-end phones with lots of storage, fully offline full text search would be really nice. Often I know that some email with a substring exists and I search for it in Mail app, and it goes off to do a server search… And when you need it most, you probably have 1 bar of range, or have no cell service and no available WiFi. Example: pulling up reservation details while traveling in a foreign country.

Or even worse, sometimes I look at some email in Mail and it’s there, and then hours later, while on bad network conditions, I look at it again and see “This email has not been fetched from the server. Download?”, which then just hangs.

I have a 1TB iPhone and a 2TB iPad. My main Gmail account is not large by any means - ~50k emails and 5GB space. Even though I have all this space on my iPhone/ipad available and willing to commit a bunch of it to email with all attachments and full text index, there seems to be no way to do it.

The Gmail app has a slider for “days of mail to sync”, but the max is 90 days, and not “All time” like one would expect. Anyways, good luck with Mailtemi!

Re: Ten Years of JMAP

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Post by retrochameleon » Sat, Dec 28, 2024, 6:06 PM UTC

MaKey wrote: post #77

retrochameleon wrote: post #76

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Normally, email providers let you organize into folders. And IMAP (if I understand correctly) DOES NOT allow clients to see those folders and replicate the folder structure. But Gmail doesn't have "folders". They have "labels". I wont go into all the details about how Gmail labels work that frustrate and annoy me, but the point is that IMAP clients cannot see labels, they can't replicate it on the client end, etc. Th…

> Normally, email providers let you organize into folders. And IMAP (if I understand correctly) DOES NOT allow clients to see those folders and replicate the folder structure. I think the "NOT" slipped in there by accident.

Yes it did. Rereading and reediting snafu.