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Re: Hoarder: Self-hostable bookmark-everything app

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Post by raybb »

hnmias wrote: post #32
raybb wrote: post #26

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When I use a tool like this one of the most important things is that it works offline so I can read something in a plane or on the go. I've looked into most of these (and instapaper, pocket, etc) and ultimately found Wallabag to be the best. However, their app is quite buggy and site is fairly clunky for my taste. Luckily there's a pretty recent 3rd party client that works offline super well and is on Mac/Linux/andro…

thanks for the app recomendation, didnt know about it yet.. regarding youtube, my youtube links saved with wallabager browser extension always show the correct title, are you using something else to save them?

Oh good point it does work with the browser extension. I was experiencing this when trying to add them from my phone.

Re: Hoarder: Self-hostable bookmark-everything app

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Post by raybb »

Openai2 wrote: post #56
raybb wrote: post #26

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When I use a tool like this one of the most important things is that it works offline so I can read something in a plane or on the go. I've looked into most of these (and instapaper, pocket, etc) and ultimately found Wallabag to be the best. However, their app is quite buggy and site is fairly clunky for my taste. Luckily there's a pretty recent 3rd party client that works offline super well and is on Mac/Linux/andro…

Why is Wallabag better than pocket?

Imo it's only better if you expect stuff to be saved correctly for reading offline. Pocket often fails even with major news sites and just opens the link to the browser. That's a big pain for me.

Also, I don't love the ads and recommended content in Pocket.

Re: Hoarder: Self-hostable bookmark-everything app

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Post by trestacos »

georgebcrawford wrote: post #41
trestacos wrote: post #13

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I've been thinking about building a service that makes it easy to self host apps like this. I'm curious if you'd find it useful. It would host webapps like yours that use in browser sqlite to store data, then the service provide a sync their sqlite data across different devices. The user not the app would pay for the storage of the data, so they would own their data. And you can use CSP to lock down the app from shar…

Is that what pikapods is? I ask out of ignorance, not "somebody is already doing that".

Pikapods looks to be running containers for you, preconfigured for the self hosted apps they support. That's a cool service, I assume there are other similar services around.

The concept I'm thinking about is different - it doesn't run any app code on the server, the apps are SPAs that run in the browser only (no backend supporting code), and then the server just syncs the data from the apps. This means the apps can focus on building ux/business logic and not worry about database, how data gets to/from clients, identity, etc. Somewhat like firebase but where the users pays for the server, not the app. That should hopefully be simpler for developers, and theres a lot less likelihood of issues with server config/etc (although presumably pikapod will handle that). It should also be cheaper since you're not constantly running a container, just storing data.

I'm not sure if it's a useful concept or not yet :)

Re: Hoarder: Self-hostable bookmark-everything app

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Post by codetrotter »

user_7832 wrote: post #80
codetrotter wrote: post #72

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Could it be Anybox? Never used it myself but seems like a possible candidate. https://anybox.app/ It does not have self-hosted, although it does have a free tier. The free tier is pretty limited, allowing just 50 bookmarks. So basically amounts to a free trial more than something you’d use for free for a long time, IMO. The website is available in English and Chinese, so the developers might be from China.

Thanks a lot! There's a very reasonable chance is is anybox! (The app I was thinking about wasn't self hosted, sorry about the confusion.) I'll check archive.org to see what it looked like a few months/year ago. (The "clean" and simple name along with the landing page style is definitely similar.)

> The app I was thinking about wasn't self hosted, sorry about the confusion

My wording was a bit confusing in how I said it, but what I meant to say was that like the one you were thinking of this one is also not self-hosted.

Re: Hoarder: Self-hostable bookmark-everything app

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Post by shanusmagnus »

aeonik wrote: post #74
ninalanyon wrote: post #70

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> This would get out of hand quickly. Hierarchies get out of hand quickly too. You will soon find that different people (or the same person at different times) create different hierarchies for the same thing and that the same thing belongs in multiple places.

Polyhierarchies combined with RAG is the one true way.

I didn't know this term before, thanks! Are there any examples (e.g., products you like) that demonstrate this One True Way in practice?

Re: Hoarder: Self-hostable bookmark-everything app

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Post by CRConrad »

sigmonsays wrote: post #17

anyone know how this compares to archivebox? Is it just bookmarks or does it download full pages? Bookmark applications are generally a failure for long term storage because links always change over time.. so i'm not sure what lense to look at this app through.

> Bookmark applications are generally a failure for long term storage because links always change over time..

Combine them with an automatic-upload-to-archive-dot-org-(if-not-there-already?) function, and save the link to that also? Dunno if any bookmarking app has that already.

[EDIT:] Heh, look – someone is apparently doing precisely that: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42502175 [/EDIT]

Re: Hoarder: Self-hostable bookmark-everything app

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Post by CRConrad »

edoceo wrote: post #10

I've one I built called Cras. Store all my neat things I find on the web there. Recently turned it into a PWA so it's a share-target on my phone (Android) which is awesome. It's self-hosted and all packed into SQLite so, IMO, very portable. Recently added a trick to snapshot all the public links I save - my copy and on Archive.is - link rot is real.

> Recently added a trick to snapshot all the public links I save - my copy and on Archive.is - link rot is real.

Someone here needs exactly that: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42502576 (And possibly me too.) So yeah, please do continue and then publish it.

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