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Windshield pitting incidents in Washington reach fever pitch on April 15, 1954 (2003)

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Re: Windshield pitting incidents in Washington reach fever pitch on April 15, 1954 (2003)

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I think that people, on the whole, vastly underestimate the degree to which humans are animals.

Maybe I'm more optimistic. Is it our animal nature? Or is it that science is hard, and most people don't have enough formal education in the relevant subjects to know they're out of their depth, let alone to understand these things.

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Re: Windshield pitting incidents in Washington reach fever pitch on April 15, 1954 (2003)

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> The conclusion is terrifying in my opinion. And this is why "conspiracy" theories exist. I prefer to call them Low Information High Satisfaction theories, as I fee that is a more accurate name. I am do not intend to pass judgement on this commentor or on people who believe in these theories; in fact, I think that if you tell yourself "I am too smart to believe in conspiracy theories", you are making yourself MORE l…

Apart from the fact that conspiracies also do exist. Before serious reporting was done, people would've called you a crackpot for talking about half the things that the CIA got up to under Allen Dulles, such as with Operation Gladio, MKUltra, PBSuccess, Propaganda Due, etc., or mass surveillance under the NSA and GCHQ.

It's the same reflex: the desire to apply a simple theory with apparent explanatory power.

Re: Windshield pitting incidents in Washington reach fever pitch on April 15, 1954 (2003)

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post #73

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the seed oil thing is so funny to me because, like, yeah. also, no. it's actually true. they cause serious inflammation which aggravates serious downstream health problems. like, you shouldn't be eating seed oils in any large quantity that you would get from regularly eating deep fried foods oh but wait, eating foods with beef tallow and other saturated fats also causes health problems. except, those problems only sh…

I remember last year when fats were "good" and carbs were "bad", good times. I mean, it could all be a psy-op by the animal agriculture lobby to get people to eat even more meat and less veggies. brb frying broccoli and noodles

I eat a pretty low carb (but not very low/keto!), high protein diet. Lots of vegetables, tofu, and chicken. I eat a head of cauliflower and two heads of cabbage a week. My broccoli bill is off the charts. But I'm also 210 lbs at 17% body fat so maybe my goals are different from most people's.

I usually use seed oils, in very small amounts (to get a pan going). I consume red meats infrequently (just not my favorite thing, idk im weird), but when I do, I totally use the fats from them to cook the rest of the meal.

Anyways, having been eating "clean" for a year, I always feel like shit after eating fried foods. Or maybe, I just notice that I feel it more.

Re: Windshield pitting incidents in Washington reach fever pitch on April 15, 1954 (2003)

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post #44

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The Governor of Maryland posted a video of lights in the sky that were very clearly not any kind of aircraft. Because they were stars. Naturally, this dimwit took the opportunity to blame the feds for failing to act. Apparently there are a lot of people out there who ordinarily just never look up in their daily lives. And instead of thinking “I’m not familiar with this stuff so I don’t know what I’m seeing,” they man…

Even 30 years ago, if you had a clear sky in countryside, you could see the occasional satellite. Very tiny, much tinier than airplane lights, and surprisingly fast. Today, there are a lot more. And of course there have always been plenty of airplane lights. Not to mention Venus, which more than one fighter pilot has tried to shoot down.

I got to see an ISS flare once, that was fun

Re: Windshield pitting incidents in Washington reach fever pitch on April 15, 1954 (2003)

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Most people don't know what airplanes really look like or what lights they have on them. To most people, any flying object is unidentified and any aerial phenomenon is unexplained. We use pennies more regularly than we see airplanes, but how many can pick the right penny from this lineup? https://human-factors.arc.nasa.gov/groups/cognition/tutorial... It gets easier to believe when supposed trustworthy sources: news…

i have not used a penny in at least 5 years, i see planes on the daily - but get your point. pennies are useless junk, straight to the recycling bin for me. really epitomizes our dysfunction that we are unable to stop making them

I have to keep making pennies to replace the ones you're throwing away! Don't destroy currency!

I put mine in baggies and use them as weights

Re: Windshield pitting incidents in Washington reach fever pitch on April 15, 1954 (2003)

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Apart from the fact that conspiracies also do exist. Before serious reporting was done, people would've called you a crackpot for talking about half the things that the CIA got up to under Allen Dulles, such as with Operation Gladio, MKUltra, PBSuccess, Propaganda Due, etc., or mass surveillance under the NSA and GCHQ.

It's the same reflex: the desire to apply a simple theory with apparent explanatory power.

Yeah I do agree with that.

Re: Windshield pitting incidents in Washington reach fever pitch on April 15, 1954 (2003)

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The veterinary world has a specific term for a condition they can’t diagnose, and I appreciate the intellectual honesty behind that.

do you know the specific term, or does your intellectual honesty prevent you from saying that you do?

"Idiopathic"?

Re: Windshield pitting incidents in Washington reach fever pitch on April 15, 1954 (2003)

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The conclusion is terrifying in my opinion. A not yet explained phenomenon or even something as far fetched as "aliens" would have been a more comforting answer than "essentially we can all start losing our mind at once, and it takes very little to trigger it".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dancing_plague_of_1518 there's a lot of conflicting stories, but mass hallucinations and insanity are not an abnormal thing in history (unfortunately)

Re: Windshield pitting incidents in Washington reach fever pitch on April 15, 1954 (2003)

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Since we all know what this is actually commenting on, I'll answer that directly. The noise on the UFO topic has reached a massed hysteria pitch. When that happens, the overall signal to noise ratio of internet sourced sightings goes from "very poor" to "nearly invisible." I blame a lot of that on the recent congressional hearings bringing stories to the public's front of mind. But. And I think its a very very import…

> maybe those are targeting drones and the rocket missed. but then why are they dripping? They're balloons carrying flares for target practice. You can see lots of falling embers in https://youtu.be/XHDXk9THJZM?si=CKSBB3AuslBizXxh&t=179 from a military flare. > if they're flares why does the second one seem to fly away when the first is struck? Because that's the maneuvering target drone (something like a QF-16, prob…

And what I'm saying is I understand that perspective. I think you can do that song and dance going back 80 years. You can watch all these people, all these witnesses, all these videos and pictures (and a complete and stunning absence of military radar data) and you can explain to them, each and every single one of them how they're wrong, how its swamp gas reflected off Venus, and in each individual case you might be right. When the video gets too good you can blame it on computer generated graphics.

But that doesn't match my experience, of pilots, of lifetime military officers, of people as a whole, that they're all incompetent or crazy or hoaxers. At some point I think that level of myopic-skepticism moves towards the absurd and cannot be maintained any longer.

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