Lessons I learned working at an art gallery
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Re: Lessons I learned working at an art gallery
#82Earlier quoted context omitted.
https://www.zmescience.com/science/physicist-shows-that-to-b... Albert-László Barabás, a physicist, created a network map that can predict an artist's future success based on their early network connections. His work outlines two key "laws of success": - Performance drives success, but when performance can’t be measured, networks drive success. This highlights the importance of networks when objective measures of qua…
This is great to think about. Glad I ran across this comment.
Re: Lessons I learned working at an art gallery
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> But if your definition of “great art” is that it is commercially succesfull then of course what you will find that the “great artist” are all like good businesman. While the author doesn't explicitly define what is "great", I 100% believed that what it is defined as. That "great" is being commercially successful. The article is premised around running a non-profit art gallery in a struggling municipality. That he d…
> While the author doesn't explicitly define what is "great", I 100% believed that what it is defined as. I understand that is his definition, but then talk about that. Instead of saying that the exhibition ended up "mediocre" say that "ticket sales were lower than expected" or "sold less paintings than we hoped for", or "didn't bring in anybody". Because as is he just writes "after weeks of this you end up with some…
The biggest failing here is a failing of clear and compelling writing.
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#84Linkedin is leaking?
Re: Lessons I learned working at an art gallery
#85I refuse to believe that not answering every single email within an hour is a good predictor of anything other than being glued to your phone. I think extending it to a reasonable amount of time, maybe a business day max, works out pretty well. Sometimes people respond really fast because they’re taking regular breaks and other times they don’t respond all evening because they’re putting on their kid’s birthday party…
I read this as "answer within the hour when preparing an exhibition". If you are in full swing to get an exhibition up and running and this is the time you decide to throw yourself into deep focus work, you are probably hard to work with. I would also assume if some artist told the author "look I know we open on Tuesday, but this Friday we have my kid's birthday so from 4 to 8 I won't be easy to reach", this would pr…
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#86The problem here is that I don’t trust the author on being able to tell who is the “best artist”. Clearly he has opinions. But for example in point 3, he says he can predict which exhibition will be great based on how easy it is to work with the artist. He predicts that some exhibition will be crap and he is right! Which sounds impressive until you notice that he is not measuring his judgement against something objec…
https://www.zmescience.com/science/physicist-shows-that-to-b... Albert-László Barabás, a physicist, created a network map that can predict an artist's future success based on their early network connections. His work outlines two key "laws of success": - Performance drives success, but when performance can’t be measured, networks drive success. This highlights the importance of networks when objective measures of qua…
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#88Earlier quoted context omitted.
> The problem here is that I don’t trust the author on being able to tell who is the “best artist”. A prerequisite to be considered a great artist is that the artist master a "craft" to perfection be it painting, drawing, sculpting, or something complete different like Burial who created one of the most important electronic album using the basic audio-editing software Sound Forge.
Is art really about craft anymore? There's certainly an element of it but it's gotten very meta and abstract these days. What is the craft in a dirty bath tub or a robot endlessly sweeping liquid? Better yet what's the craft in a white canvas: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_invisible_artworks I'm actually not denying there's art here, sometimes I "get it" but the art of today has gotten very conceptual and m…
It never was, but it is still important as it always has been.
> There's certainly an element of it but it's gotten very meta and abstract these days.
Art is about many things. I agree that a lot of art can be esoteric nowadays, mostly because its in conversation with specific things, so it can feel like an inside joke, or a private conversation you are not privy to. If I make an art piece critiquing an article from The Economist and you never read business news then my piece will be unparseable for you, regardless of quality.
Many art pieces are in response to other art movements, or to niche communities, or to conversations happening in the art world etc. If you jump into a modern art gallery and someone is replying to the art that was in Art Basel Miami, which was a repsonse to internet art, which in itself was a response to figurative early .... and then you go to this art gallery and you cant get a painting because its talking to someone that is not you.
> where the need to be accessible vs original are pit against each other.
I dont think thats true. There are certainly artists that manage to break new ground while being accesible, while other prime originality over mainstream appeal. That is an artistic choice to be made, in the same way retreading comfortable ground or releasing a Christman Carol album is.
> Da Vinci, Monet, Turner, Picasso - the art is fairly accessible.
Trying to understand the last supper without knowledge of Christianity would make Da Vinci fairly hard. Monet was a counter culture leader against The Salon in France which prized craft, and execution over more ground breaking attempts like impressionism, so hardly accesible when his entire life was a fight against the culture of the time. Picasso can be called many things, but accesible is not one that comes to mind. Gernika can be considered striking, but cubism, his portraits of women (and their significance), his pottery... there is plenty of his work that needs analysis and is plain ugly on first watch.
> But who will be remembered as being accessible and "serious" from our generation in music?
There will be plenty. Kendrick Lamar won a Pulitzer for his lyrics, to give a simple example his song Swimming Pools about the many faces of alcoholism and its raveging effects on the black community is both a popular song as well as really well written narratively. From the 90s you could easily pull Nirvana for offering grunge as an alternative to the hyper corporate, pro capitalism, runaway train that american political and social life was engaged in, while having incredibly catchy songs. If you wanna go further back Bob Dylan and The Beatles are absolute masters of catchy tunes and powerful lyrics.
You said what felt to be in the present with List? Well you had Lisztomania, an absolute uproar of women turning up to see him. This was mocked/replicated by the beatles with Beatlemania. You could argue the Boy band, Justin Bieber phenomenom was that same effect although the musicality, and the corporate interference shows a darker more manufactured side to the art.
And in terms of art you have incredible art of every type right now, never has art been more accesible or easy to produce. What we are missing is search tools, surfacing interesting works and specially people curating what stuff is good from the muck. But if a tree falls in a forest, it still makes sound and rn there are countless artists dropping trees you just need to perk your ears up
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#89Earlier quoted context omitted.
https://www.zmescience.com/science/physicist-shows-that-to-b... Albert-László Barabás, a physicist, created a network map that can predict an artist's future success based on their early network connections. His work outlines two key "laws of success": - Performance drives success, but when performance can’t be measured, networks drive success. This highlights the importance of networks when objective measures of qua…
I guess this is why a sucessful genius can tape a banana to a wall while a run of the mill worker can only restore Notre Dame to its original state.
Re: Lessons I learned working at an art gallery
#90Earlier quoted context omitted.
https://www.zmescience.com/science/physicist-shows-that-to-b... Albert-László Barabás, a physicist, created a network map that can predict an artist's future success based on their early network connections. His work outlines two key "laws of success": - Performance drives success, but when performance can’t be measured, networks drive success. This highlights the importance of networks when objective measures of qua…
I guess this is why a sucessful genius can tape a banana to a wall while a run of the mill worker can only restore Notre Dame to its original state.
All my life I have been thinking I should develop good skills in my career. But actually I should have been learning how to make connections and talk to people.
There's no chance of me selling a single banana for that much. But I could be making a multiple what I do now.