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Breaking the 4Chan CAPTCHA

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Re: Breaking the 4Chan CAPTCHA

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Post by codetrotter »

OkayBuddy44 wrote: post #74
codetrotter wrote: post #55

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> simplify the human work given that anyway it's simple to solve via NNs. We are at a point where designing very hard captchas has high probabilities to increase the human annoyance without decreasing the machine solvability Or disallow free users to post at all, and require everyone to buy the 4chan Pass for $20 USD per year if they want to post. https://4chan.org/pass This is already available to not have CAPTCHA.…

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As a large language model, I don’t have access to up to date weather information.

Nah. But whatever you’re trying to imply, I think it would make more sense to claim that I am Hiroyuki Nishimura or something.

For now, I’m going to prescribe you 6 months of abstinence from /pol/ and we’ll do another evaluation after that.

Re: Breaking the 4Chan CAPTCHA

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Post by layer8 »

hsbauauvhabzb wrote: post #78
antirez wrote: post #13

Appropriate response by 4Chan to this: simplify the human work given that anyway it's simple to solve via NNs. We are at a point where designing very hard captchas has high probabilities to increase the human annoyance without decreasing the machine solvability.

What is NN?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neural_network_(machine_learni...

Re: Breaking the 4Chan CAPTCHA

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Post by hsbauauvhabzb »

OmarShehata wrote: post #22
cchance wrote: post #19

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I mean at some point ... the average visitor is dumber than the AI and your now just blocking dumb people

yes, we're creating websites that are gated by IQ tests. This isn't the way

I’d like to believe I have at least an average IQ and I can’t pass half the google captchas.

Whether or not a square is part of the motorbike when it’s either the rider or a few pixels of the wheel is subjective and fuzzy. Fuck google for not making these questions clear cut enough that answers aren’t disputable.

Re: Breaking the 4Chan CAPTCHA

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Post by [deleted] »

avar wrote: post #72
alekratz wrote: post #57

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one of the biggest problems that 4chan has to combat is spam. unfortunately, at 4chan's scale, hcaptcha and recaptcha are not free. 4chan is not exactly a font of money, either. the only reason they turned to this awful homebrew captcha was because recaptcha stopped being free. is there any better way to do it with a single developer for a website that serves millions of people a day?

> is there any better way to do > it with a single developer for > a website that serves millions > of people a day? No, the other reason they're using this is to make it so annoying that you'll spend $20/yr to buy a 4chan pass to bypass it. If you're not making your free website annoying to drive revenue there's obvious ways to make it less annoying. E.g. keep the annoying captcha, but don't show one again for the l…

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Re: Breaking the 4Chan CAPTCHA

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Post by Anon1096 »

avar wrote: post #72
alekratz wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

one of the biggest problems that 4chan has to combat is spam. unfortunately, at 4chan's scale, hcaptcha and recaptcha are not free. 4chan is not exactly a font of money, either. the only reason they turned to this awful homebrew captcha was because recaptcha stopped being free. is there any better way to do it with a single developer for a website that serves millions of people a day?

> is there any better way to do > it with a single developer for > a website that serves millions > of people a day? No, the other reason they're using this is to make it so annoying that you'll spend $20/yr to buy a 4chan pass to bypass it. If you're not making your free website annoying to drive revenue there's obvious ways to make it less annoying. E.g. keep the annoying captcha, but don't show one again for the l…

> keep the annoying captcha, but don't show one again for the lifetime of a cookie

This is already being done, there's a cookie and heuristics in place that will give you an easier captcha or occasionally skip it entirely. But 4chan really does have a couple (and I truly mean a small amount of super super dedicated users) of bad actors who constantly spam and try to work around any roadblocks given to annoy the rest of the userbase. You cannot give them a reliable way to spam no matter what. That's why there's now many country and region blocks in addition to your standard VPN/DC IP range blocks. Plus the Cloudflare check added a couple years ago.

Re: Breaking the 4Chan CAPTCHA

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Post by tomcam »

If there's one place on the web I would apply anonymity with great diligence, it would be posting any article that might put me at odds with the good people of 4Chan.

mostly kidding! mostly

Re: Breaking the 4Chan CAPTCHA

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Post by shortrounddev2 »

paulpauper wrote: post #67
shortrounddev2 wrote: post #63

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They had a gigantic spam problem, captcha saved the site

then how does Reddit and Twitter work without such an obnoxious captcha? I find it hard to believe those sites get less spam. Or any other community.

Reddit and Twitter are replete with bots

Re: Breaking the 4Chan CAPTCHA

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Post by credus »

anigbrowl wrote: post #2

Congratulations, now it will get upgraded and become more work for humans to solve, increasing the burden on every non-malicious user.

It only took about three days until the very first captcha solver was made back in 2021, and the dev's only response was to blanket ban the author's name sitewide until he became popular again for other reasons so they had to remove the filter. They know it's only a matter of time for someone to train a new model no matter how much they update the captcha so they don't really care much about it these days.

Re: Breaking the 4Chan CAPTCHA

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Post by emptyfile »

OkayBuddy44 wrote: post #74
codetrotter wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> simplify the human work given that anyway it's simple to solve via NNs. We are at a point where designing very hard captchas has high probabilities to increase the human annoyance without decreasing the machine solvability Or disallow free users to post at all, and require everyone to buy the 4chan Pass for $20 USD per year if they want to post. https://4chan.org/pass This is already available to not have CAPTCHA.…

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