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Re: Warp terminal – no more login required

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Post by porridgeraisin »

ghusto wrote: post #58
jakebasile wrote: post #4

I remember seeing this terminal emulator, deciding to give it a shot to see what the deal is, and being asked to sign in. I have never uninstalled a program faster in my life. I think I'll just stick to iTerm.

Never understood why people use iTerm. I know back in the day it was because of the lack of tabs in Terminal.app, but tabs were added long ago and tmux was always a better option for that kind of functionality anyway. Genuinely curious because I feel like I'm missing something. I tried it again a while ago and still couldn't see anything I couldn't already do.

Truecolor.

Already a deal breaker.

Re: Warp terminal – no more login required

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Post by deprecative »

netspider wrote: post #9
jakebasile wrote: post #4

I remember seeing this terminal emulator, deciding to give it a shot to see what the deal is, and being asked to sign in. I have never uninstalled a program faster in my life. I think I'll just stick to iTerm.

Just like arc web browser i think this is the worst business model

As soon as I got to that screen I uninstalled. I don't want an account for every single thing I use.

Re: Warp terminal – no more login required

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Post by alokedesai »

lukekim wrote: post #25

You also have to run it as admin. If you don't, it tries to auto-update every day and when it can't presents a big, obnoxious red banner. [1] https://x.com/WarpSpeedDan/status/1811447481047097788

Aloke from Warp here. The experience if you don’t have admin access isn’t great—I’ll follow up and make sure this gets fixed.

Re: Warp terminal – no more login required

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Post by alokedesai »

georgethomas wrote: post #24

I've now tried Warp twice (once off the back of this post). Switching back to iTerm2 again because of https://github.com/warpdotdev/Warp/issues/1811 I like the sound of the other two features (rich text editing and automatic AI commands) but the muscle-memory cost is too high.

Hey there, this is Aloke from Warp here. We originally built custom tab completions in Warp partly because of limitations with how Warp’s input works. We think our completions can be better for a lot of common commands (git, yarn, npm, etc) but I totally hear you that when completions in Warp don’t work like they do in another terminal it’s very frustrating.

No ETA for this yet, but this is very much on our radar to fix asap.

Re: Warp terminal – no more login required

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Post by corytheboyd »

benced wrote: post #34
corytheboyd wrote: post #15

Warp is still a development tool run by a VC backed company, and history tells us how this will end, despite positive intentions and promises of “we won’t be evil, seriously”. Other terminals are free, open, and more than good enough, why would I use Warp? I’ll pay for good development tools, it’s not about that at all, it’s just that Warp is a… terminal. I pay for JetBrains because it’s that much better than the fre…

I like it and enjoy it right now. I don't have anything locked into it so if it goes to hell, I can go back to iTerm.

Totally fair, Postman used to be good too. Postman still is a Pretty Good HTTP Client to be fair, it’s just that it is very clearly being used to extract cash from orgs that will pay for it.

Re: Warp terminal – no more login required

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Post by corytheboyd »

talldayo wrote: post #54
RadiozRadioz wrote: post #41

I don't know what subculture of developers they're targeting, but I'm definitely not part of it. They should have known that a login on startup is completely unacceptable and detestable to an important segment of developers. Not less how they launched without Linux support. They have signalled to me, loud and clear, that their product is not for people like me, and I will never try it. Doesn't matter that they've rem…

And for reference, they acknowledged that this was a problem two years ago but didn't fix it until now. It speaks to either a very lazy development ethic internally, or an outright distrust of their own audience when they speak up. Either way, this is not a product that deserves my telemetry, much less my salary.

It’s a for profit company. Seems pretty obvious why they fought for two years on this. They probably had to convince themselves internally that free users will be lured into paying for it to capture more revenue or something like that.

Re: Warp terminal – no more login required

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Post by corytheboyd »

corytheboyd wrote: post #15

Warp is still a development tool run by a VC backed company, and history tells us how this will end, despite positive intentions and promises of “we won’t be evil, seriously”. Other terminals are free, open, and more than good enough, why would I use Warp? I’ll pay for good development tools, it’s not about that at all, it’s just that Warp is a… terminal. I pay for JetBrains because it’s that much better than the fre…

Note: it does seem at least some development happens in the open https://github.com/warpdotdev/Warp

> We are planning to first open-source our Rust UI framework, and then parts and potentially all of our client codebase. The server portion of Warp will remain closed-source for now.

https://github.com/warpdotdev/Warp/discussions/400

None of the server bits will be open, ever, but some of the UI code will be? Better than nothing.

Re: Warp terminal – no more login required

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Post by zachlloyd »

jakebasile wrote: post #4

I remember seeing this terminal emulator, deciding to give it a shot to see what the deal is, and being asked to sign in. I have never uninstalled a program faster in my life. I think I'll just stick to iTerm.

fair criticism, and this is the reason we removed the login requirement.

just to clarify though, the point of the login is that we have features that cost money to provide like AI and collaboration, not anything more nefarious, but i get that it's a new behavior and reasonable devs might not like it.

Re: Warp terminal – no more login required

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Post by zachlloyd »

RadiozRadioz wrote: post #41

I don't know what subculture of developers they're targeting, but I'm definitely not part of it. They should have known that a login on startup is completely unacceptable and detestable to an important segment of developers. Not less how they launched without Linux support. They have signalled to me, loud and clear, that their product is not for people like me, and I will never try it. Doesn't matter that they've rem…

fair.

there is a large segment of developers who find the command line hard to use or who just want a better, more productive experience using it. to be clear, you may not fall into that bucket, and that's OK.

the point of the login is that we have features that cost us money to provide like AI, and we need some concept of identity to prevent their abuse. i don't think that's detestable (e.g. it's very similar to cursor or copilot), but i get that's a new behavior in the terminal and am sorry it put you off.

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