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Canada’s vanishing tech sector

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Re: Canada’s vanishing tech sector

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Gaming companies in Montreal are a sad joke and represent everything that is wrong with Canadian tech. 37 % of game developer salary is paid by provincial government. Our tax money is given to France's business elites.

And in what manner does this situation prevent high-tech stuff from happening in Montreal, with Quebec talent? The idea here is that a critical mass of talent is being raised in Montreal. I agree with you that this is a good example of what is wrong with high tech in Canada: why is it that French investors are willing to invest money in Montreal, but Toronto Investment banks don't? In what manner are Canadian VC's pr…

Montreal VCs don't invest in Montreal startups, they invest in getting tax credits and grants - it's the same reason call centers "invest" in the maritimes

Re: Canada’s vanishing tech sector

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Saw a post in Engineer Blogs recently, http://engineerblogs.org/2012/07/wtf-17-seditious-traitor/, which was written from a Canadian who decided to move to China to seek out tech opportunities. Kind of wondering if Canada's tech industry with RIM and Nortel is like Detroit in general with the auto industry - as the big companies go, so does everything else.

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It's amazing how most of these articles just talk about the difficulties of raising money. As if that's the only important thing missing in Canada for startups. What about the difficulty of finding out what users want (when your customers are all in the US), the lack of a concentrated talent pool of people in your sector (hard to network let alone hire), lack of sector-specific mentors. All much harder to do in Canad…

> What about the difficulty of finding out what users want (when your customers are all in the US) That's absolutely not the issue. In fact, Canada's national past time is to psycho analyse Americans. If anything we understand them better then they themselves. Also there is tons of money available. The issue is smart money. We raised all our money in New York City.

Hey Tobi. Ah as usual I forgot to preface with the fact that I can only speak regarding my personal experience.

In our case, it was about talking to users outside of the Blackberry bubble. After we moved down to the Valley, we started seeing more and more people use Fitbit and other quantified self devices, as well as all the cool new fitness tracking apps on Android and iOS. That helped drive our feature set for Pebble.

Re: Canada’s vanishing tech sector

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It's amazing how most of these articles just talk about the difficulties of raising money. As if that's the only important thing missing in Canada for startups. What about the difficulty of finding out what users want (when your customers are all in the US), the lack of a concentrated talent pool of people in your sector (hard to network let alone hire), lack of sector-specific mentors. All much harder to do in Canad…

> What about the difficulty of finding out what users want (when your customers are all in the US) This seems like a false premise. I would guess people who live in the valley are just as disconnected from the rest of the states as people who live in Canada. Perhaps more so.

Potentially. But the valley is usually a strong bellweather (or first mover) on tech trends that eventually spread worldwide.

Re: Canada’s vanishing tech sector

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I'm surprised you think New York or Vancouver are lower cost than SV. Externalities (housing, cost of living, etc.) are the same or higher than the other places. Talent may be more expensive but that's because that's (by and large) where the talent actually is.

The grand-parent just said Canada is: "- Relatively low cost (compared to, say, San Francisco);" That is true for most of Canada. Vancouver is expensive, but other cities are cheaper than SF. I have a 1 bedroom apartment in one of the nicest areas of Montreal for $650 per month.

Renting in Vancouver is generally cheaper than SF. Buying a place may be a different story, but rent is reasonable in Vancouver.

Re: Canada’s vanishing tech sector

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It's amazing how most of these articles just talk about the difficulties of raising money. As if that's the only important thing missing in Canada for startups. What about the difficulty of finding out what users want (when your customers are all in the US), the lack of a concentrated talent pool of people in your sector (hard to network let alone hire), lack of sector-specific mentors. All much harder to do in Canad…

Regarding talent pool, it is particularly noticeable when hiring non-technical roles at a tech company (ie: technical sales & marketing).

There is a feedback loop between not being able to raise sufficient money, and not being able to afford the most talented people...

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Many non-tech friends/family have told me that Victoria BC has a booming tech industry (esp in gaming). Can anyone confirm that for me ? I haven't found very much online about it so feel a bit doubtful. I'm Canadian and moving back to Victoria next month from NY. The current plan is to push hard on a small service business for the airline industry (so I'm not in a hurry to find a new job). Even so, I've been away for…

Victoria "booming" is a pretty extraordinary claim. I'm in Vancouver, and there is at least some startup activity, but I can't think of much in Victoria. Maybe from a non-tech perspective it looks that way, but look at the companies in both locations and see which are hiring. It's probably the most objective way of finding out which is "booming".

Re: Canada’s vanishing tech sector

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I am an Australian/British dual-citizen (born in Australia but lived and worked some ~3 years in London and ~1 year in Zurich) who now works in New York. I've had discussions with various people (mainly other engineers) on the topic of how one would go about starting a startup. These discussions--largely theoretical--have centered around three problems: 1. Where? 2. The route to funding/profitability; and 3. Visa/res…

Eastern Canada has a vanishing tech sector, out here in Vancouver it's perfectly alive and well. The issue with Vancouver is not software patents, but capital recycling. Most of our tech capital leaves Vancouver instead of staying to be reinvested, this is why mining works so well in Vancouver, there is a huge amount of capital recycling, similar to what you'd see in the bay area in tech. (Oddly enough SF also has a…

Tech sector salaries in Vancouver are shockingly low while costs of living are nearly on par with San Francisco. It's a really bad deal.

Re: Canada’s vanishing tech sector

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I am an Australian/British dual-citizen (born in Australia but lived and worked some ~3 years in London and ~1 year in Zurich) who now works in New York. I've had discussions with various people (mainly other engineers) on the topic of how one would go about starting a startup. These discussions--largely theoretical--have centered around three problems: 1. Where? 2. The route to funding/profitability; and 3. Visa/res…

engineers aren't even on the list of high-demand occupations Probably because there is no demand. My local municipal government was recently looking for someone to maintain their website, which is little more than a simple blog. The job description essentially laid out the job as your basic, run of the mill CRUD application. The kind of stuff kids in high school do for fun. When you read down to the requirements sect…

I call BS on this. From my experience in Toronto, there are many companies looking for developers and having a difficult time finding quality candidates.

Re: Canada’s vanishing tech sector

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I'm on Vancouver Island, and I hear quite a bit about the housing prices in Vancouver. Random semi-recent article: http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/story/2012/03...

I'm an American living in Australia right now (Adelaide) and wife and I are thinking of moving to Victoria on Vancouver Island. She's a GP and I'm a geek. I know the home prices are going to be high, but tbh, it seems Australia is also quite high! If one was willing to live in the suburbs, a bit away from the city, is it really as bad as people say? Also, how is the tech scene in Victoria?

Haven't kept tabs on it lately, but one resource for the Victoria tech scene is the Victoria Advanced Technology Council (VIATeC) site: http://www.viatec.ca
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