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Visualizing 13M Bluesky users

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Re: Visualizing 13M Bluesky users

#81

"We can't make a map of all of Twitter, because the data isn't available and scraping it would be difficult and illegal." What makes scraping illegal?

Nothing. A precedent determining that scraping is legal is already established.

"legal" doesn't imply that Twitter/X won't send a C&D due to scraping that is expensive for a normal person to fight. Moreso if Twitter/X invokes the CFAA which has been common for scraping cases post HiQ vs. LinkedIn.

Re: Visualizing 13M Bluesky users

#82

Earlier quoted context omitted.

None of that is remotely close to hate speech. President Trump is not a marginalized community.

Hate speech or not, there is nothing pleasant about it. The irony is that the 'holier-than-thou' crowd, who are against hate and for love all over the world, overwhelmingly post negative political comments and are rooting for X/Twitter to collapse. This ^ is a good problem to solve in social networks.

It was about "hate speech" though, not "unpleasant speech", then you'd be right.

Stop thinking in us/them, everybody hates someone or something and that's fine. That's not what hate speech is I think. Take one example from the Canadian govmnt:

> The bill defines “hate speech” as the content of a communication that expresses detestation or vilification of an individual or group of individuals on the basis of a prohibited ground of discrimination.

> These grounds of discrimination are race, national or ethnic origin, colour, religion, age, sex, sexual orientation, gender identity or expression, marital status, family status, genetic characteristics, disability, or conviction for an offence for which a pardon has been granted or in respect of which a record suspension has been ordered.

https://www.justice.gc.ca/eng/csj-sjc/pl/chshc-lcdch/index.h...

That's just one "official" definition of many obviously.

Re: Visualizing 13M Bluesky users

#83

Bluesky to me still seems like a place completely dominated by software type (HN crowd). I know there are obvious exceptions there's no need for you to list them. Threads has extreme normies, bluesky has the nerds, and twitter seems to have just the right mixture of both.

I find Mastodon much more dominated by that crowd. Bluesky seems to have a decent mix of software nerds and artists, but yes there's definitely a "nerd" bias there that Threads doesn't have which is more aggressively "normie".

Re: Visualizing 13M Bluesky users

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Another argument is that it could lead to a bot problem 10x worse than twitters ever was.

Computers that are operated by humans that are using APIs designed for computers is not a bug, but a feature.

Well yeah that's why you can expect it to increase 10x

Re: Visualizing 13M Bluesky users

#86
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Bluesky has really exploded in certain niches over the past week, I think my followers have gone up 5-6x since Saturday. I'd been a somewhat active user over the past year as conversation on the field I work in (energy) become so degraded on Twitter as to make it kind of worthless (mean in multiple senses of the word as well as ludicrous levels of spam), but Bluesky was pretty relaxed without a lot of traction, now t…

The spammers and trolls will be there soon. Nothing popular is ignored for long.

Nice thing is that block works there.

Re: Visualizing 13M Bluesky users

#87

"We can't make a map of all of Twitter, because the data isn't available and scraping it would be difficult and illegal." What makes scraping illegal?

The LinkedIn vs HiQ case makes it so that scraping data behind a login screen is not okay but publicly accessible pages are fair game.

Re: Visualizing 13M Bluesky users

#88
I must be one of those tiny dots just floating in nothingness because my BSKY feed is a dead zone. I've posted, I've replied, I've liked and tried to be an active participant but nothing seems to stick. There's only so many posts I can publish "for myself" before I lose interest.

Contrast this with early Twitter where everyone was just super excited, and eager to follow new people. I don't get it, shouldn't a new social network be full of people looking to create new... social networks?

Re: Visualizing 13M Bluesky users

#89

The visualization looks absolutely fantastic. Great work. Would love to dive deeper into the tech behind it. I'll just share some irony. They say X/Twitter is full of people spreading hate speech. I just logged in into my old BlueSky account. My entire feed is full of people saying how much they _hate_ X/Twitter.

> They say X/Twitter is full of people spreading hate speech.

I've recently created a brand new account on X for a project. Looking at what was being recommended to the brand-new account with no interactions or likes or anything, they are not wrong.

Re: Visualizing 13M Bluesky users

#90

A lot of high profile commentators were waiting until after the election to move to Bluesky. They felt that they'd be giving up their influence if they left then, but now that the election is over they have time to rebuild onto a new platform. Bluesky seems quite nice. I was on Mastadon for a while, but after the initial burst of activity, its silo-like orientation led to stagnant servers. That is, it neither fully e…

There's another narrative that I've heard about the recent flood of former-X users into Bluesky: a new Terms of Service document goes into effect in about 4 days, giving X ownership of your content with respect to its use in training LLMs.
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