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Bitcoin has made a new all-time high price

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Re: Bitcoin has made a new all-time high price

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So I suppose people must use it all the time to buy goods and services. Right?

I know you are being snarky, but i think its worth pointing out that ever increasing prices is bad for a medium of exchange not good. The higher prices decreases the liklihood of it being used like a currency.

Yes, absolutely. But that’s exactly the problem. What is crypto - currency, investment, technology, religion? Apparently for all the crypto people I know, it’s somehow all of the above.

Re: Bitcoin has made a new all-time high price

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Soon this will all collapse, reaching all time highs isn't a good thing. Pyramid scheme at best, ponzi scheme at worst. I still don't know any use case for this other than speculation and people aren't even using it in the real world.

The real use case is self defense against the arbitrary devaluation of fiat currency. As wildly imperfect as crypto is at that task, it's the best we have in a fungible, digital form. So pessimistic investors flee to it. The worst case for a crypto investor is for the dollar to be restored to a stable store of value. To outcompete crypto, just whip inflation.

exactly...

Re: Bitcoin has made a new all-time high price

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A person mentioned that Bitcoin is heavily used for money laundering and similar activities. How authentic is this, and does it affect rates, like what's happening right now?

https://mitsloan.mit.edu/sites/default/files/2022-06/Bitcoin... > illegal transactions, scams and gambling together make up less than 3% of volume.

In other words almost all of the actual transactions, since the other 97% is almost purely speculation.

Re: Bitcoin has made a new all-time high price

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> don't have confidence in the power of the US dollar Whenever the US stock market slumps, doesn't Bitcoins price usually slump too in almost perfect lockstep?

Yes, bitcoin effectively trades like the 3x leveraged nasdaq indices (TQQQ).

Eh the USA hasn't defaulted on its debt. Yet. Once it does BTC will stop shadowing the USD.

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I did not downvote you, but I want to respond to your question instead of taking the approach of weaponizing hn votes to simply suppress perspectives I disagree with, and I'd encourage my pro-crypto friends to do the same. We have to treat dissenters and critics with the same open-minded, good-faith, respectful dialogue we want them to offer us. I don't mean to suggest I'm not a biased partisan, but I will be a good-…

(I use bitcoin and crypto pretty interchangeably) > Bitcoin is a truly decentralized, voluntarist system Doesn’t 1 pool account for more than 50% of the bitcoin netwoek? It’s theoretically decentralized, but in truth, you can only meaningfully contribute to the network (and have a real chance of mining a block) if you are already wealthy enough to buy the hardware. The issue, imo, with your stance is that it’s all ro…

> Doesn’t 1 pool account for more than 50% of the bitcoin netwoek?

https://hashrateindex.com/hashrate/pools

As of today the top 3 pools are 26%, 11%, 10%

Re: Bitcoin has made a new all-time high price

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So I suppose people must use it all the time to buy goods and services. Right?

No, but people are feeling sketchy about keeping their wealth in USD

While tempting to link the two, you really can't. Post-hoc rationalization fallacy. I've come to appreciate that all of Yahoo finance/stock news is true bullshit. Markov process, random fund manager deciding to move money, these are all potential explanations rather than an actual identifiable and causative zeitgeist. In other words, a lot if it is really just quite random (potentially with a long term trend. But let's say again, post-hoc rationalization fallacy)

Re: Bitcoin has made a new all-time high price

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Stablecoins are much better for payments, no one would use BTC for goods and services with the transaction fee and the confirmation time being so bad. https://www.coinbase.com/institutional/research-insights/res... TL;DR from the article : Stablecoins settled $10.8T worth of transactions in 2023 of which $2.3T were related to organic activities including payments and cross-border remittances, among others Today’s pay…

> Stablecoins are much better for payments Stablecoins on what 'network/coin/layer/chain'? Stablecoins on top of ETH? On top of SOL? On top of ETH BASE? On top of ETH Arbitrum/Optimism? Binance Smart Chain? Tron? Polygon?

Doesn’t even matter, because stablecoins are basically acknowledging that all of the crypto tech is a farce and all you need is a digital currency tied to IRL currencies.

Re: Bitcoin has made a new all-time high price

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Well yeah. It's a right wing project on the day after the monumental success of another far right project with which it is closely linked.

I guess that might be it, but it's still very surprising to hear for people that were around the internet before or around the early 2000s

Re: Bitcoin has made a new all-time high price

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Trump seems to be good for coin. He did promise to help deregulate crypto by firing the SEC chair. - https://www.axios.com/2024/07/27/trump-bitcoin-strategic-res...

He also said to want a strategic reserve of bitcoin, seeded by the currently seized amounts the US Govt already has, the rest needing to be acquired

RFK was campaigning on the same

Looked like pandering, but ignoring a “crypto vote” is not going to be a mistake future politicians make :) nobody likes politicians that treat them as a joke to be ignored. That other party is always late on this and keeps trying the same strategy of “othering” the people that are already American citizen voters. Didnt work this time, oops.

Re: Bitcoin has made a new all-time high price

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No, but people are feeling sketchy about keeping their wealth in USD

> USD sketchy > BTC less sketchy I get what you are saying but it is still a wild sentence. I get monetary policy, debasement, inflation... but there is no rule/law that says "BTC MUST be a safe-haven alternative to inflation"

Nobody is alluding that it _must_ be a safe-haven w.r.t. inflation; just that it's less sketchy than USD. However, I personally wouldn't put my money there, because there exist cryptocurrencies with much stronger fundamentals. XMR is one of them: the cartels, major organized groups, money laundering industries are all doing their books in it. People often claim that Bitcoin is weak fundamentally, nobody uses it for goods and services, etc etc, well they should buy XMR—it's really strong, and indeed, stable like that.
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