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New York Times Tech Guild goes on strike

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That's assuming the result is a binary this year. I'm expecting torrents of news about this contest, which is likely to turn into a brawl.

And what harm to you would it be to not be aware of whatever nonsense is happening for a few days? Would you have been extremely damaged if you had not heard about January 6th until a week later? Unless you sincerely think there's going to be widespread political violence in your specific area, knowing about what's going on in at this exact moment is honestly as much about entertainment as anything else. And if you n…

One way I get to have faith in our country and pride in being an American for the next four years.

You're talking about Jan 6 like it was just some minor scuffle. And I agree that it did not ultimately amount to more than that, but do not forget that at the time there were two live bombs on the ground, we were in a constitutional crisis, the president seemed to be hoping that if he maintained silence his supporters would carry out a forceful takeover of the government which he assured them would be righteous in his view.

The fact that there was not more escalation had a lot to do with how many people were watching closely, as well as with the actions of a few individuals like Mike Pence and Brad Reffensperger who, at the most important moments, decided that their duty was to all Americans and not just to one man.

Re: New York Times Tech Guild goes on strike

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Times leadership knew this was coming and dragged their feet on negotiating.

I don't doubt it. While I wholeheartedly support their legal right to organize, I am not required to celebrate at the cynicism of attempting to undermine faith in democracy to win a better job

> attempting to undermine faith in democracy

Election day, assuming that is what you are referring to, is the least important day in democracy. It is every day after the person is hired, when you stay on top of them and communicate your expectations to them, when democracy happens.

Re: New York Times Tech Guild goes on strike

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I am also a member of the union at NPR, on the subway headed to the picket line in solidarity right now. Happy to answer any questions. I encourage everyone to respect the picket line and get your news elsewhere until the workers get a deal. The Times Workers are holding the line against arbitrary return to office mandates and for Just Cause protections. The vast majority of HN consists of developers, designers, QA,…

> I encourage everyone to respect the picket line and get your news elsewhere

Technically, wouldn't "respecting the picket line" be not doing any "scab" work for the NYTimes? Asking us not to use the NYTimes is more of a boycott and a separate question (and not always something strikers ask for). Is it official policy of the strike that they request people boycott in solidarity as well?

Re: New York Times Tech Guild goes on strike

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I am also a member of the union at NPR, on the subway headed to the picket line in solidarity right now. Happy to answer any questions. I encourage everyone to respect the picket line and get your news elsewhere until the workers get a deal. The Times Workers are holding the line against arbitrary return to office mandates and for Just Cause protections. The vast majority of HN consists of developers, designers, QA,…

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Extortion is defined by action (e.g. threat of violence). A strike is defined by inaction (the workers quit working).

Re: New York Times Tech Guild goes on strike

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Gift link: https://www.nytimes.com/2024/11/04/business/media/new-york-t... https://archive.ph/f9gP0

The current top comment includes this: > I encourage everyone to respect the picket line and get your news elsewhere until the workers get a deal. It would be nice if this could be replaced with a non-NYT link.

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I am also a member of the union at NPR, on the subway headed to the picket line in solidarity right now. Happy to answer any questions. I encourage everyone to respect the picket line and get your news elsewhere until the workers get a deal. The Times Workers are holding the line against arbitrary return to office mandates and for Just Cause protections. The vast majority of HN consists of developers, designers, QA,…

Genuine question: what prevents the NYT from offshoring these jobs if they can be done from home? I feel for you, as a fellow worker, but unless there is something hyper-local about the job such as regulatory requirements or trust issues with IP protection, the jobs will go to the ones who work hard without complaining too much.

Offshoring is nothing new. Has been tried for decades, with multiple degrees of failure.

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That is what strikes are by definition, yes. It doesn't just seem like it. There is no other weapon workers can wield if they don't have a legal basis to make leadership meet their demands. Obviously this can backfire in countries that don't have good union law and if you are too replaceable (hello AI).

Not quite. Extortion is defined by introducing force. A strike is defined by withdrawing force.
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