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Re: Claude for Desktop

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Post by vunderba »

pjmlp wrote: post #77
vunderba wrote: post #66

Lots of people are correctly suggesting this could function just as equally well as a PWA, but I will point out that (all things being equal) there are some valid use-cases when strictly choosing between Electron vs PWA that a LOT OF PEOPLE seem to be oblivious of: - Electron apps don’t rely on a web server to function, so as long as you archive the app’s installer, you can install it on future computers even if the…

Apparently running a daemon with the system browser has gone out of fashion, or a skill lost in modern times. Not to mention the whole calling into a server anyway.

It would be nice to see a de-coupling of the backend (as a service, deamon, etc.) so that we could choose the desired frontend of our choice (net win from a UI/UX, accessibility perspective, etc.), but it's been a long time since I've encountered a consumer level application that did this.

Re: Claude for Desktop

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Post by sdoering »

layoric wrote: post #62
result2vino wrote: post #35

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Hardly a dumpster fire, moving to Linux from Windows is by far the best thing I’ve done for my work and sanity using a computer. For macOS users might be less of a reason, but aside from video editing workflow, has been a smooth process, and highly recommended for devs to give it another go.

I'd argue, that given the right hardware (I'd go with a Framework anytime again) and the right setup in terms ox *nix, I am happy to never touch a MB Pro (or any Mac) again in my life.

Re: Claude for Desktop

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Post by Wytwwww »

suby wrote: post #59
result2vino wrote: post #35

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Linux Desktop isn't perfect, but it's in no way a dumpster fire. I'm much happier using Linux than any other viable alternative. Your experience clearly differs, but I personally have very few complaints at this point. Calling it a dumpster fire is extreme hyperbole. I'm hoping they're incentivized to support Linux just based on the developer market share of Linux. The StackOverflow developer survey looks like it unf…

> but at the top level 27% of developers are using Ubuntu desktop.

That seems very unlikely. The sample is of course probably extremely unrepresentative. Also I wouldn't be surprised if selection bias might have a significant effect (a lot of Linux users can't help but try and publicize the fact even if nobody is asking, so imagine what they do when someone does ask... Windows is likely the opposite).

Re: Claude for Desktop

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Post by entropicdrifter »

vunderba wrote: post #73
entropicdrifter wrote: post #71

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I mean, re: point 1, we're talking about an app that calls an API for every interaction already, so that doesn't seem super relevant. If Claude is down, you can't use it whether it's through a PWA or an Electron app.

> "Lots of people are correctly suggesting this could function just as equally well as a PWA, but I will point out that (all things being equal) there are SOME VALID USE-CASES " YES - I am speaking GENERALLY . That's why I literally called that out in my comment that this particular use-case (Claude Desktop) could easily be done with a PWA.

Gotcha. Sorry, I guess that was unclear to me based on your phrasing. When you said "some valid use-cases", I thought perhaps you meant (for this app) and not (for Electron apps in general) as the implied next clause.

Re: Claude for Desktop

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Post by JKCalhoun »

triyambakam wrote: post #57
runjake wrote: post #55

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> For anything more involved, I want a tab and an URL. Why, exactly?

Probably for bookmarking or working iteratively over different sessions on the interaction and allowing more than one session at a time.

Or sharing.

Re: Claude for Desktop

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Post by vunderba »

entropicdrifter wrote: post #84
vunderba wrote: post #73

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> "Lots of people are correctly suggesting this could function just as equally well as a PWA, but I will point out that (all things being equal) there are SOME VALID USE-CASES " YES - I am speaking GENERALLY . That's why I literally called that out in my comment that this particular use-case (Claude Desktop) could easily be done with a PWA.

Gotcha. Sorry, I guess that was unclear to me based on your phrasing. When you said "some valid use-cases", I thought perhaps you meant (for this app) and not (for Electron apps in general) as the implied next clause.

No worries, yeah I just meant that if a dev has no intention of building a native app and is only deciding between either a PWA or an Electron/Tauri App, then there are some advantages to the latter.

Re: Claude for Desktop

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Post by YetAnotherNick »

sv123 wrote: post #11

Perhaps a gateway to run computer use locally? https://www.anthropic.com/news/3-5-models-and-computer-use

I don't think they could release computer use for $20/month plan. It seems super expensive and you could easily involve Claude for hours of work for manual tasks like data entry or data cleaning.

Re: Claude for Desktop

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Post by entropicdrifter »

gigatree wrote: post #6
entropicdrifter wrote: post #3

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Kids these days insist that they need the "app" of something, even when it's literally the exact same thing as the webpage. Between this phenomenon and the refusal of many to close tabs in their browsers, I can't help but wonder if a huge percentage of the populace have never heard of or used Bookmarks on their web browsers before.

I think it’s less about not knowing what a bookmark is and more about just having a more direct way to access it, where it’s more high-level than just in a tab. There’s just something mentally different about opening a program from your dock as opposed to from a tab, even if they’re both basically a website.

It used to be fairly common to have web-page shortcuts back in the mid-00's. Lots of apps would add spam shortcuts to your desktop that would just open your web browser to a web page where you were encouraged to buy something/donate/start a free trial.

Anyways I think that capability still exists on all modern OSes.

Re: Claude for Desktop

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Post by suby »

elashri wrote: post #76
suby wrote: post #59

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Linux Desktop isn't perfect, but it's in no way a dumpster fire. I'm much happier using Linux than any other viable alternative. Your experience clearly differs, but I personally have very few complaints at this point. Calling it a dumpster fire is extreme hyperbole. I'm hoping they're incentivized to support Linux just based on the developer market share of Linux. The StackOverflow developer survey looks like it unf…

> The StackOverflow developer survey looks like it unfortunately allows people to choose multiple options which devalues the results and obscures the actual numbers But how would you capture the situation when people are using both linux and Mac ? I for example have a good mini PC which run Linux and a MBP. I use both depending on where I'm (I mostly work from home). I even have a windows machine dedicated to gaming…

Yeah, this is why I said it devalued the usefulness of the stat.

It goes both ways though. There are people who checked that they use Ubuntu when they're on Mac or Windows the majority of the time, but there are also people that checked they're on Debian which isn't feeding into the Ubuntu top line number. I'm not sure which way this is going to bias it -- I could see the number being much higher or much lower. Debian was at 9.8% (iirc) for instance, and I don't imagine there are many people using both Ubuntu/Debian for desktop usage.

Re: Claude for Desktop

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Post by entropicdrifter »

vunderba wrote: post #86
entropicdrifter wrote: post #84

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Gotcha. Sorry, I guess that was unclear to me based on your phrasing. When you said "some valid use-cases", I thought perhaps you meant (for this app) and not (for Electron apps in general) as the implied next clause.

No worries, yeah I just meant that if a dev has no intention of building a native app and is only deciding between either a PWA or an Electron/Tauri App, then there are some advantages to the latter.

I'd say for the case of Tauri it's doubly so. You can have natively compiled Rust code for especially compute-intensive functions, rather than having it running via WASM.
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