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Re: Thunderbird for Android Now Available

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Post by cozzyd »

aidenn0 wrote: post #49
vzaliva wrote: post #28

I do not know how it is financed, but I would rather have them use these funds to fix desktop version first. Content advisory: longish rant ahead. I have 4 email accounts: 2 Gmail, 1 Outlook, and 1 ProtonMail. I also use Google Calendar and Outlook Calendar. The reason I switched to Thunderbird was to manage them all in one uniform UI instead of keeping 6 open tabs. I tried hard to love it, but after about 6 months,…

Gnome evolution works great; I've used it with everything you are talking about except ProtonMail. It defaults to the bizarre Gnome look (no native controls, toolbar buttons haphazardly strewn through the title bar), but you can change it in the preferences if you hate that as much as I do.

I ended up having to switch ti Thunderbird because my work email turned off its imap connector and evolution didn't support the exchange 2fa they are using. Maybe it's supported now? I did prefer evolution to Thunderbird. .

Re: Thunderbird for Android Now Available

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Post by aidenn0 »

cozzyd wrote: post #81
aidenn0 wrote: post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Gnome evolution works great; I've used it with everything you are talking about except ProtonMail. It defaults to the bizarre Gnome look (no native controls, toolbar buttons haphazardly strewn through the title bar), but you can change it in the preferences if you hate that as much as I do.

I ended up having to switch ti Thunderbird because my work email turned off its imap connector and evolution didn't support the exchange 2fa they are using. Maybe it's supported now? I did prefer evolution to Thunderbird. .

I've been using Evolution with EWS MFA via Oauth2 for years; there's a tiny bit of extra configuration though:

https://wiki.gnome.org/Apps/Evolution/EWS/OAuth2

Re: Thunderbird for Android Now Available

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Post by newscracker »

vzaliva wrote: post #28

I do not know how it is financed, but I would rather have them use these funds to fix desktop version first. Content advisory: longish rant ahead. I have 4 email accounts: 2 Gmail, 1 Outlook, and 1 ProtonMail. I also use Google Calendar and Outlook Calendar. The reason I switched to Thunderbird was to manage them all in one uniform UI instead of keeping 6 open tabs. I tried hard to love it, but after about 6 months,…

> I do not know how it is financed

You can donate to Thunderbird in general. Right on the homepage of Thunderbird mobile [1], is a donation link. [2] Unlike donations on mozilla.org, where the funds go to Mozilla Foundation (and not to Mozilla Corporation, which is the one developing Firefox), the donations on thunderbird.net go to funding Thunderbird on all the platforms that the Thunderbird team works on.

[1]: https://www.thunderbird.net/en-US/mobile/

[2]: https://www.thunderbird.net/en-US/mobile/?form=tfa

Re: Thunderbird for Android Now Available

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Post by philipwhiuk »

dugite-code wrote: post #11

With it becoming Thunderbird branded my biggest wish is proper subfolder support. Seeing folders as Archives.2024.invoices.paid rather than a nice collapsable list makes mail management a right pain. It's also one of the oldest request on the github https://github.com/thunderbird/thunderbird-android/issues/63...

And it's in the same state I said when I commented on it for the same reason as I commented. A scrolling List View is really easy to implement. A proper infinitely nested folder UI is harder and none of the 'off-the-shelf' things worked at the time.

(There's a bunch of comments that are just wrong, the code does 'understand' the separators, it just doesn't do much with that knowledge).

The UI last time I used it used a mixture of web-views and standard components.

We were at the time handling the Material UI transition to make it look like a modern app.

Until that was done there was very little incentive to invest a lot of time in a UI that would be scrapped when that happened.

Other big projects (like the Android timers change which broke reliable email fetch or battery life) were also prioritised ahead of it (for reasonable reasons).

Honestly with only cketti and another person working on it part-time, the project struggled to do more than (or even) keep pace with the Android ecosystem. Maybe now it can. But the release cadence and approach was painfully slow.

I stopped my involvement with the project when I switched from Android to Apple - my motivation was always improving my own email experience.

Re: Thunderbird for Android Now Available

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Post by cozzyd »

aidenn0 wrote: post #82
cozzyd wrote: post #81

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I ended up having to switch ti Thunderbird because my work email turned off its imap connector and evolution didn't support the exchange 2fa they are using. Maybe it's supported now? I did prefer evolution to Thunderbird. .

I've been using Evolution with EWS MFA via Oauth2 for years; there's a tiny bit of extra configuration though: https://wiki.gnome.org/Apps/Evolution/EWS/OAuth2

I think I tried this but it wasn't supported by our Exchange setup for whatever reason that I can't remember. I might try again at some point though...

Re: Thunderbird for Android Now Available

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Post by BizarroLand »

AlienRobot wrote: post #79
BizarroLand wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Because they don't want to get sued for monopolistic practices, I guess. Since the Goo owns Chrome and Youtube, Youtube blocking non-chrome user agents would be actionable. Even if they whitelisted Safari, that would still be actionable.

I don't believe a court would tell Google it has to provide a service for free.

Any competent lawyer could easily make the argument that that is a false equivalence.

They're not being forced to provide a service for free, they're not being allowed to ostracize essentially the only browser with any meaningful percentage of users that doesn't use their web engine as that is an anti-competitive and monopolistic practice.

Re: Thunderbird for Android Now Available

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Post by aidenn0 »

cozzyd wrote: post #85
aidenn0 wrote: post #82

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've been using Evolution with EWS MFA via Oauth2 for years; there's a tiny bit of extra configuration though: https://wiki.gnome.org/Apps/Evolution/EWS/OAuth2

I think I tried this but it wasn't supported by our Exchange setup for whatever reason that I can't remember. I might try again at some point though...

Another option to try is davmail; it exports davmail/caldav/carddav/LDAP from an exchange server.

My only note with that is the caldav and exchanges internal handling of event invites will fight with each other, so don't try to accept invites from within your imap mail client.

https://davmail.sourceforge.net/

Re: Thunderbird for Android Now Available

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Post by dugite-code »

philipwhiuk wrote: post #84
dugite-code wrote: post #11

With it becoming Thunderbird branded my biggest wish is proper subfolder support. Seeing folders as Archives.2024.invoices.paid rather than a nice collapsable list makes mail management a right pain. It's also one of the oldest request on the github https://github.com/thunderbird/thunderbird-android/issues/63...

And it's in the same state I said when I commented on it for the same reason as I commented. A scrolling List View is really easy to implement. A proper infinitely nested folder UI is harder and none of the 'off-the-shelf' things worked at the time. (There's a bunch of comments that are just wrong, the code does 'understand' the separators, it just doesn't do much with that knowledge). The UI last time I used it used…

Hey thanks for the work in the past, you did amazing work. No doubt imaps loosness with how it returns data made it an even more complex task.

I hope joining Thunderbird is going to pay dividends for big task like this one.

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