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Re: Italy's Piracy Shield just blocked one of Google's CDN

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Post by bithead »

johnklos wrote: post #7

Companies like Google and Cloudflare just really don't care that they host malicious content and have stopped taking meaningful action to take down reported content. That they'd be blocked at some point is completely unsurprising. As it is, I have to explain to people regularly that clicking on "sponsored" links, or whatever Google calls them, doesn't work because we have to block "googleadservices.com" due to their…

I think it's possible they may. I used to get 50 - 150 of those "I hacked the camera on your computers and videoed you wacking. Pay me bitcoins and I won't release it to all your friends". Many come from .kz, .cn, .in, and various others. I'd notify those ISP NOCs that their networks are being used of obvious criminal activity and criminals love to break into servers and networks. I also put in bitcoin abuse reports using the IP addresses that sourced the emails.

Google addresses started show up about 4 - 6 months ago; their IPv6 addresses. So I prominently mentioned in those bitcoin abuse reports that google should make any effort at all to secure their servers and notified their NOC/security email addresses. I also mentioned their addresses would appear in those public bitcoin abuse reports.

After a couple of months the google addresses stopped appearing as sources.

NOTE: I used a honeypot email address to snare these emails.

Re: Italy's Piracy Shield just blocked one of Google's CDN

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Post by Psilocibin »

fulafel wrote: post #49
ranger_danger wrote: post #5

Ironically from not-Italy: Warning: Potential Security Risk Ahead Firefox detected a potential security threat and did not continue to mil04s43-in-f1.1e100.net Error code: SSL_ERROR_BAD_CERT_DOMAIN

The link is bad from a web browser POV so that's correct - it's using the DNS name from the ip address reverse lookup, but the web server cert there identifies to a different Google DNS name which would point to the same address. (But the point was to point to this CDN node and you can't really link to it on HN in any other way)

I don't understand, can you explain?

Re: Italy's Piracy Shield just blocked one of Google's CDN

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Post by behringer »

bithead wrote: post #81
johnklos wrote: post #7

Companies like Google and Cloudflare just really don't care that they host malicious content and have stopped taking meaningful action to take down reported content. That they'd be blocked at some point is completely unsurprising. As it is, I have to explain to people regularly that clicking on "sponsored" links, or whatever Google calls them, doesn't work because we have to block "googleadservices.com" due to their…

I think it's possible they may. I used to get 50 - 150 of those "I hacked the camera on your computers and videoed you wacking. Pay me bitcoins and I won't release it to all your friends". Many come from .kz, .cn, .in, and various others. I'd notify those ISP NOCs that their networks are being used of obvious criminal activity and criminals love to break into servers and networks. I also put in bitcoin abuse reports…

you're the hero we need, but we don't deserve <3

Re: Italy's Piracy Shield just blocked one of Google's CDN

#84

Post by behringer »

appplication wrote: post #77
ruthmarx wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The pirates remain triumphant and unshakeable. Why? Because you can go to any number of torrent sites you want right now and download anything you want, and as long as it's not too obscure it will probably not take more than 10 or 2 minutes. Trying to shut down piracy is playing whack-a-mole with one hammer, 10,000 moles and 100,000,000 holes. > The legal actions against free streaming sites The only people using tho…

I used to pirate years ago, and have tried pirating again recently and I find it too difficult to get into any of the private communities (some of which require you to pay?). There’s some stuff outside of those communities but the quality and consistency of content is quite poor and it seems to be constantly getting taken down, and finding torrents with search engines isn’t as effective anymore. Sometimes it does fee…

I think you're doing it wrong. You don't need private. You just need to find the right "release groups" and the right software to use.

Re: Italy's Piracy Shield just blocked one of Google's CDN

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Post by 0dayz »

slim wrote: post #78
poincaredisk wrote: post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There is a vast difference between "oppressing people who dare to mention a certain historical event that the party doesn't like" and "blocking some malware or illegal downloads on the DNS level". I hope you're not being serious when you're equating them.

you sure the west is not doing that "oppressing people who dare to mention a certain historical event that the party doesn't like" bit ? think again

Given your evidence of zero, no.

Re: Italy's Piracy Shield just blocked one of Google's CDN

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Post by johnnyanmac »

ruthmarx wrote: post #68
johnnyanmac wrote: post #65

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's huge enough risk that they still choose to invest in fighting it. Overstated or not in public, that's all that matters to a business. I don't know why when it comes to piracy that suddenly we forget that companies have entire wings (or hire entire companies) dedicated to figuring out how much piracy is occurring and what's most profitable. Will it put them out of business to ignore it? Probably not. But clearly…

> It's huge enough risk that they still choose to invest in fighting it. It's not a risk though. Movies still make over a billion dollars regularly. All it is is greed and ignorance. > But clearly they determined it's cheaper to fight than let it go rampant. This is due to poor decision making, like companies like Coke continuing to pay for advertising at the scale they do. > And for small businesses and projects it…

>Movies still make over a billion dollars regularly

And if they make a million more fighting piracy rather than not then they'll do it. It's a risk to their expenditures.

Risk is obviously relative. Hacked movies don't kill anyone, a hacked game server of cheaters can kill the entire game.

>companies like Coke continuing to pay for advertising at the scale they do.

Honestly that's such a discussed topic with so much literature that I don't have more to add. It comes down to how fast you think people would forget about coke of they stopped, or how quickly the next generation would pick a new coke. Remeber that advertising includes making sure soda machines have coke on the front, as well as plastic cups with the same label. It's clear the Coca Cola company made it's decision there.

>It doesn't hurt them like you might think. It's well established at this point hat pirates are the group that spends the most on content, and also frequently leads to an increase in sales.

Word of mouth for product 1.0 doesn't matter if the single dev can't afford to get to product 2.0. Thars how "pirates spend the most" work Survivor bias is playing a huge role here, and most pirated services doit survive. And "we'll pay you on exposure" is just as insulting to hear from a pirate as it is from a conglomerate.

But again. Most small businesses don't have much choice because they can't chase needles in haystacks full time. Giving away your 1.0 for free works at the scale of Microsoft or Adobe where you can reel them in later (by shutting off the very piracy they benefitted from). Small businesses can't sit on rent or debt anywhere near as long.

Re: Italy's Piracy Shield just blocked one of Google's CDN

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Post by appplication »

behringer wrote: post #84
appplication wrote: post #77

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I used to pirate years ago, and have tried pirating again recently and I find it too difficult to get into any of the private communities (some of which require you to pay?). There’s some stuff outside of those communities but the quality and consistency of content is quite poor and it seems to be constantly getting taken down, and finding torrents with search engines isn’t as effective anymore. Sometimes it does fee…

I think you're doing it wrong. You don't need private. You just need to find the right "release groups" and the right software to use.

I’m almost certain I’m doing it wrong, but that’s sort of my point. As a dev, I spend all day working with software, but then I try to do something I used to easily do as a 12 year old and it’s almost impossible to achieve an even half-decent experience without significant knowledge and research now.

It may be obvious to you what the right release groups and software are but this isn’t how it used to be. You used to be able to just search for torrents, and find high quality ones for just about anything. It’s not the case anymore. Even going to TPB and searching there feels like I’m missing something because of how poor the catalog and average health is.

Re: Italy's Piracy Shield just blocked one of Google's CDN

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Post by Mr_Minderbinder »

cynicalsecurity wrote: post #24

Why would Italy have anything called Piracy Shield? Is it located in the West or in China?

If I recall correctly they were also the first Western country (or the first country overall outside of China) to implement lockdowns, at a time when everyone was saying that we couldn’t do them and that lockdowns could only happen in a country like China.

Re: Italy's Piracy Shield just blocked one of Google's CDN

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Post by PeterStuer »

0dayz wrote: post #35
PeterStuer wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The real question is: how did you come to believe 'the West' does not censor?

And this is meant to insinuate what exactly?

I find it curious how people in 'the West' fail to recognize the extend of propaganda by their own media, corporations and governments, while they seem to have no qualms attributing the same machinations to the rest of the world.

Re: Italy's Piracy Shield just blocked one of Google's CDN

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Post by thefz »

devjab wrote: post #26
cynicalsecurity wrote: post #24

Why would Italy have anything called Piracy Shield? Is it located in the West or in China?

To combat illegal sports streaming and betting. On a deeper level it is to combat major crime organisations on a financial level. Italy actually has a lot of initiatives to do these things, though some obviously work better than others. One of the better is how every budget has to has through a government service, to tack illegal activities both internally and across borders. Many EU countries have various things lik…

> On a deeper level it is to combat major crime organisations on a financial level.

Lol no, on a deeper level it is to preserve mafia's profits in the soccer business.

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