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The TikTok documents: Stripping teens and boosting 'attractive' people
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#82Earlier quoted context omitted.
Keep it simple dude. All they get is a basic device with text/RCS and call capabilities. I would be okay with giving a kid just a smart watch. No social media or smart phones until 16 y/o. Also making sure kids have friends in their community is a plus. Involve them in school programs, help guide them as they find their interest. For love of god, don’t give your kid an unlocked iPad with YT/TT/FB/Twitch/kick.
It's very easy to say this if you're not a parent. Social media does some harm. Being socially excluded does far _more_ harm. Which starts to happen in middle school. So as a parent, you have three choices: 1. Deal with the emotional consequences of your kid being systematically excluded and having few/no friends. 2. Construct an alternative school/community with like-minded parents and kids. 3. Just give them the da…
This idea that not letting kids access social media is harmful is something I don't understand.
We don't allow our kids to use social media. Some of their friends do, and some of them do not.
Doesn't seem to be a problem in any way.
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#84I'm a 90s kid. My parents didn't let us have a TV. TV shows were a social object: in the 90s you'd come to school the next day and discuss what you watched. You signaled your in-groups by what shows you liked and what you didn't like. I had none of that. I had friends, but only because I got very good at hiding my oddities. I was disconnected from my peers and learned a set of behaviors that have fucked up a lot of r…
TV shows were regulated and relatively harmless. Social media has no filters and you have no control or idea over what it'll show to kids. The risks are unimaginable.
And not getting to fit in with such groups that base themselves on discussing brainrot sounds like a benefit to me honestly, not a drawback. Remember the "Blue Whale" challenge?
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#85I believe the lawsuit brought by the states against TikTok is a part of a broader mission to arrest control over TikTok in the US at a sweeter price. And while I don’t think TikTok is an angel, i see the whole consolidated effort at “taming” TikTok as being for show and claim of positive reformations. It’s disingenuous. It’s deceptive. It’s conspiratorial.
What do you think of the similar lawsuits against Meta?
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#86I believe the lawsuit brought by the states against TikTok is a part of a broader mission to arrest control over TikTok in the US at a sweeter price. And while I don’t think TikTok is an angel, i see the whole consolidated effort at “taming” TikTok as being for show and claim of positive reformations. It’s disingenuous. It’s deceptive. It’s conspiratorial.
This won't be popular opinion but I think the tech industry is out of control with targeting kids. Like seriously my job in the banking industry was more ethical than this.
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#87I'm a 90s kid. My parents didn't let us have a TV. TV shows were a social object: in the 90s you'd come to school the next day and discuss what you watched. You signaled your in-groups by what shows you liked and what you didn't like. I had none of that. I had friends, but only because I got very good at hiding my oddities. I was disconnected from my peers and learned a set of behaviors that have fucked up a lot of r…
This isn’t really a fair comparison. Banning from TV was extremely uncommon in the 90s. I remember those kids, with parents like yours, and it was often just a small part of what made them odd outcasts. Their clothing choices and mannerisms put more of a target on them than the lack of TV. They were usually extremely socially awkward amongst other things that would invite bullying.
Sorry not meant as a personal attack but it’s not how kids that don’t use social media come across to me at all.
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#88I'm a 90s kid. My parents didn't let us have a TV. TV shows were a social object: in the 90s you'd come to school the next day and discuss what you watched. You signaled your in-groups by what shows you liked and what you didn't like. I had none of that. I had friends, but only because I got very good at hiding my oddities. I was disconnected from my peers and learned a set of behaviors that have fucked up a lot of r…
That is really terrible and I worry for our kids being anti media iconoclasts. If only there were a community for likeminded families.
If the Amish could read this they would be dabbing so hard right now.
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#89Curious how tech-oriented parents here are approaching TikTok et al with their kids. My kid isn't walking yet, but for when the time comes, I'm not sure how I'll limit exposure to what I'd call "pure trash", but also give them freedom and the ability to 'fit in' with (inevitably) the rest of their friends using this stuff.
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Re: The TikTok documents: Stripping teens and boosting 'attractive' people
#90Earlier quoted context omitted.
> My wife and I abandoned all social media ...I'm sorry, I have to point out, you're posting this on what is basically a social media site.
A definition of “social media” that includes HN has been stretched to the point of uselessness. We would have to invent a new term to refer to the things we actually mean by “social media”. Better to just not do that so we can keep having a useful term.
Alright, let's use an actual definition: https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/social_media says,
> (uncountable) Applications or websites allowing users to share content and communicate with one another via the Internet.
and HN:
[x] is a website
[x] allowing users to share content
[x] allowing users communicate
[x] via the internet
Perhaps you should invent a new term for whatever you're talking about? Depending on what you want, I might suggest "algorithmic feeds" (actually that appears to be an extant term, but it might be what you want), or "multimedia social media" (to exclude pure-text sites like this).