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Re: Meta Movie Gen

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Post by jsheard » Fri, Oct 04, 2024, 1:57 PM UTC

dageshi wrote: post #33

TrackerFF wrote: post #6

All the vids have that instantly recognizable GenAI "sheen", for the lack of a better word. Also, I think the most obvious giveaway are all the micro-variations that happen along the edges, which give a fuzzy artifact.

Yeah but... it's good enough? There were movies with horrible VFX that still sold perfectly well at the time.

An important contrast is that early VFX offered strong control with weak fidelity, and these prompt-based AI systems offer high fidelity with weak control. Intent matters if you want to make something more than a tech demo or throwaway B-roll and you can't communicate much intent in a 30 word prompt, assuming the model even follows the prompt accurately.

Re: Meta Movie Gen

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Post by skerit » Fri, Oct 04, 2024, 1:57 PM UTC

I made a silly 1-hour long movie with friends +/- 20 years ago, on DV tape. I would love to use this to actually be able to implement all the things we wanted to achieve back then

Re: Meta Movie Gen

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Post by spacebanana7 » Fri, Oct 04, 2024, 1:57 PM UTC

kingofthehill98 wrote: post #68

cs702 wrote: post #35

Impressive. It's only going to get better, faster, cheaper, easier.[a] Sooner than anyone could have expected, we'll be able to ask the machines: "Turn this book into a two-hour movie with the likeness of [your favorite actor/actress] in the lead role." Sooner than anyone could have expected, we'll be able to have immersive VR experiences that are crafted to each person. Sooner than anyone could have expected, we won…

But mostly just porn.

I think AI porn is overhyped. We've had the ability to create realistic photos and short vids for over a year now and onlyfans creators are still doing fine. AI porn is just a niche for stuff that humans don't want to perform.

Re: Meta Movie Gen

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Post by swatcoder » Fri, Oct 04, 2024, 1:57 PM UTC

thinkingemote wrote: post #66

Are any image / video generation tools giving just the output or the layers, timelines, transitions, audio as things to work with in our old fashioned toolsets? The problem: In my limited playing of these tools they don't quite make the mark and I would easily be able to tweak something if I had all the layers used. I imagine in the future products could be used to tweak this to match what I think the output should b…

Keep in mind that these technologies produce more stuff like what they've been trained on, and they need tremendous amounts of training data to pull that off.

It so happens that there are innumerable samples of prose and source code and rendered songs and videos and images to use as this training data.

But that's not so much the case for professional workflows (outside of software development).

If the tools can evolve to generating usefully detailed and coherent media projects instead of just perceptually convincing media assets, it's going to be a while before they get there.

Re: Meta Movie Gen

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Post by Hrun0 » Fri, Oct 04, 2024, 1:57 PM UTC

adamc wrote: post #61

mywacaday wrote: post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Are we only a few years away from one person/small group made movies where the dialog, acting, location and special effects can be tweaked endlessly for a relatively low cost. If I was a studio exec I'd be worried.

I wouldn't be. How is any of this going to lead to meaningful art? I don't think you get "The Green Mile" from something like this.

> I don't think you get "The Green Mile" from something like this.

...yet

Re: Meta Movie Gen

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Post by tikkun » Fri, Oct 04, 2024, 1:57 PM UTC

FAQs I found:

Is it available for use now? Nope

When will it be available for use? On FB, IG and WhatsApp in 2025

Will it be open sourced? Maybe

What are they doing before releasing it? Working with filmmakers, improving video quality, reducing inference time

Re: Meta Movie Gen

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Post by ceejayoz » Fri, Oct 04, 2024, 1:57 PM UTC

edgyquant wrote: post #73

Workaccount2 wrote: post #59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If I was a human I'd be worried.

These are tools by and for humans

So are nukes.

Re: Meta Movie Gen

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Post by kleiba » Fri, Oct 04, 2024, 1:57 PM UTC

To all the folks with negative opinions of this work: you guys are nuts! This work is incredible. Is it the end of the line yet? Of course not, but come on! This is unbelievably cool, and who of you would have predicted any of this ten years ago?

Re: Meta Movie Gen

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Post by keiferski » Fri, Oct 04, 2024, 1:58 PM UTC

cs702 wrote: post #35

Impressive. It's only going to get better, faster, cheaper, easier.[a] Sooner than anyone could have expected, we'll be able to ask the machines: "Turn this book into a two-hour movie with the likeness of [your favorite actor/actress] in the lead role." Sooner than anyone could have expected, we'll be able to have immersive VR experiences that are crafted to each person. Sooner than anyone could have expected, we won…

This sounds gimmicky and worth watching once or twice, then forgetting about. Worthwhile art will continue to be created from a specific person's/group's vision, not an algorithmically generated sum of personal preferences.

Re: Meta Movie Gen

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Post by wiseowise » Fri, Oct 04, 2024, 1:58 PM UTC

So I’m probably going to be too closed minded about this: but who the f*ck asked for this and did anyone consider consequences of easily accessible AI slop generation?

It’s already nearly impossible to find quality content on the internet if you don’t know where to look at.