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Re: Do All Problems Have Technical Fixes?

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> When a "new hammer" is developed or discovered (lets say, radiation) there's a natural inflection point. People will try marketing radioactive medicines, radioactive soft drinks, radioactive toys, radioactive jewelry.... etc etc. Have you read anything from the early 20th century? This is a noticeable theme in e.g. stories set in the mythos of Conan the Barbarian or the Wizard of Oz. "Radium" is treated as essentia…

And before that, it was "magnetism".

And today it's quantum mechanics and/or dark matter.

Re: Do All Problems Have Technical Fixes?

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I feel like the framing in the article is wrong. Tech startups are desperately searching for solutions that will generate value. When a "new hammer" is developed or discovered (lets say, radiation) there's a natural inflection point. People will try marketing radioactive medicines, radioactive soft drinks, radioactive toys, radioactive jewelry.... etc etc. Everything will be thrown at the wall to see what sticks. The…

That sounds like the what I am seeing in the consumer packaged goods industry. In desperation of growth they are throwing everything at the wall. ex: that 'flamin hot' thing took off and post pandemic they put it in everything including soda and ice cream. Lets not forget every merchandising opportunity under the sun.

There's only so many people who can figure out what will really sell, or be able to really sell it.

And way more people who wish they could do the former, but know in their heart they never will, while having a leg up in the latter, often built from a fortunate upwardly-mobile sales career where their customers never did get their money's worth.

You know the kind I'm talking about.

Which can guide their actions toward a slightly deceptive form of marketing, or things even more unsavory.

OTOH, sometimes quite benign, but also less creative.

And it shows.

Otherwise you wouldn't know the kind I'm talking about :\

Re: Do All Problems Have Technical Fixes?

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I feel like the framing in the article is wrong. Tech startups are desperately searching for solutions that will generate value. When a "new hammer" is developed or discovered (lets say, radiation) there's a natural inflection point. People will try marketing radioactive medicines, radioactive soft drinks, radioactive toys, radioactive jewelry.... etc etc. Everything will be thrown at the wall to see what sticks. The…

Funding, both from governments and investors, also tends to chase after trends, so people's proposals will reflect that.

I wish there was some deeper thought or philosophy behind it, but that clearly isn't always the case.

Re: Do All Problems Have Technical Fixes?

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A lot of problems do. But sometimes the problem is people related. You can work around those problems with technology but you can't fix them. In terms of real world problems: climate change, food scarcity, poverty, water quality and access, health care, etc. a lot of the solutions are technical. And a lot of those solutions are directly or indirectly about making energy cheaper and cleaner. With cheap clean energy, y…

Food scarcity, poverty, clean water, basic health care. These are IMO excellent examples of people problems, not tech problems. If it were tech problems we wouldn’t be drinking clean water, driving Teslas and eating fancy food now would we? These are more or less solved issues. Now what we have not solved is how to share our toys. Of course, tech could help to lower barrier(s), making access so cheap even “they” can…

food scarcity could be viewed as a bin packing problem when you consider the amount of food that gets thrown away.

Re: Do All Problems Have Technical Fixes?

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I feel like the framing in the article is wrong. Tech startups are desperately searching for solutions that will generate value. When a "new hammer" is developed or discovered (lets say, radiation) there's a natural inflection point. People will try marketing radioactive medicines, radioactive soft drinks, radioactive toys, radioactive jewelry.... etc etc. Everything will be thrown at the wall to see what sticks. The…

You mean Tech startups are desperately searching for buzz words that will generate profit.

Yeah and this worked for quite a while as the prior generation was less STEM savvy than the younger generation who grew up on it and as such have had two decades to realize web app startups are just a generational Ponzi scheme that’s not going to literally take them to Mars or do much of anything but hand more of our agency to a bunch of patronizing elders who don’t contribute except in the form of political pageantry.

Re: Do All Problems Have Technical Fixes?

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I feel like the framing in the article is wrong. Tech startups are desperately searching for solutions that will generate value. When a "new hammer" is developed or discovered (lets say, radiation) there's a natural inflection point. People will try marketing radioactive medicines, radioactive soft drinks, radioactive toys, radioactive jewelry.... etc etc. Everything will be thrown at the wall to see what sticks. The…

Reminds of hammer factory: https://factoryfactoryfactory.net/

Re: Do All Problems Have Technical Fixes?

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Mutually assured destruction is a technical solution - when it is suicidal for either side to attack each other (because of a large and robust nuclear arsenal), both can be confident the other won't attack. There are potentially other technical solutions. Anti-ballistic missile systems could make nuclear strikes non viable, as could more advanced defenses. One could imagine weapons designed to remotely pre-detonate n…

You are misunderstanding me bringing up mutually assured destruction. Sure, it prevents preemptive strikes, but it doesn't prevent accidental launches, broken early warning systems and bad communication. Do you think the fact that we haven't done any of these other measures to a degree that the danger is no longer substantial in 70 or so years is a matter of technology or priority? If it's priority, how do we priorit…

> You are misunderstanding me bringing up mutually assured destruction. Sure, it prevents preemptive strikes, but it doesn't prevent accidental launches, broken early warning systems and bad communication.

No I understand just fine. We are just using different definitions of problem.

In my definition of problem, mutually assured destruction is a solution to the problem of nuclear strikes. Accidental launches, broken early warning systems, and miscommunication are all additional problems, which have their own solutions. There also exist alternative, better solutions to the initial problem (again nuclear strikes), which might avoid some of these additional problems.

> Do you think the fact that we haven't done any of these other measures to a degree that the danger is no longer substantial in 70 or so years is a matter of technology or priority?

Clearly technology. Nuclear war is an existential threat that has occupied the minds of policy makers and the public alike for decades, and there is arguably no higher priority than preventing it. If someone just had a silver bullet lying around that would eliminate that threat and allow the world to sleep easy it would have been implemented immediately, regardless of cost. It's not like our current solution is free, maintaining a nuclear deterrent is massively expensive and of course carries catastrophic risk if it fails. Substantial effort has been placed into developing some of these alternative solutions, but to date mutually assured destruction remains the best solution available. But technological advance continues, and the idea that a better solution could not eventually be found is silly.

> If it's a tech advancement problem, how do not constantly have a rolling window of uncontrolled potentially civilization-ending technology?

That is very clearly a different problem - preventing existential threats from being developed in the future versus dealing with existential threats already developed. Let's rephrase the question as "how do we create a situation where people aren't willing to go through the effort to create more capable weapons of mass destruction?" Again, I don't have answers to all the worlds problems, but it's reasonable to believe that a series of technical fixes to the root causes of the problem exist.

Re: Do All Problems Have Technical Fixes?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

That sounds like the what I am seeing in the consumer packaged goods industry. In desperation of growth they are throwing everything at the wall. ex: that 'flamin hot' thing took off and post pandemic they put it in everything including soda and ice cream. Lets not forget every merchandising opportunity under the sun.

There's only so many people who can figure out what will really sell, or be able to really sell it. And way more people who wish they could do the former, but know in their heart they never will, while having a leg up in the latter, often built from a fortunate upwardly-mobile sales career where their customers never did get their money's worth. You know the kind I'm talking about. Which can guide their actions towar…

A lot of these things that I describe are built on the back of a successful product. 'Flamin hot' was a successful product, every subsequent variation was not original thinking. What steps were taken to get to the original success?

Seems like in the 80s-90s there was an avalanche of unique products, now in this post pandemic decade its just nonstop rehashing of the oldies. Ex. Cinnamon toast crunch vs cinnamon toast crunch hazelnut spread alternative.

Re: Do All Problems Have Technical Fixes?

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Well I mean folks in the developing world now have mobile phones which is really changing the way things work. It doesn't immediately install a new government and raise everyone instantly out of poverty but it's likely a big improvement to quality of life. I'm sure it's not all upside either. But I suspect that this is one case if trickle down actually working.

And eventually the Chinese will sell every person in the third world a dirt cheap electric mini car. Sounds like in some areas the technology solution is changing lives and improving the situation despite poor governance.

Everybody having a car (electric or otherwise) just creates new problems. Can we use technology to get governments to invest in fast and efficient public transportations and divest in car infrastructure? Is there technology that can do that?

Re: Do All Problems Have Technical Fixes?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

And eventually the Chinese will sell every person in the third world a dirt cheap electric mini car. Sounds like in some areas the technology solution is changing lives and improving the situation despite poor governance.

Everybody having a car (electric or otherwise) just creates new problems. Can we use technology to get governments to invest in fast and efficient public transportations and divest in car infrastructure? Is there technology that can do that?

This same stupid idea came up at this years Chaos Communication Congress to thunderous applause. Its a very European mentality. The first government that imposes that people take the bus will be the first government that gets voted out in record time. The left wing activists cannot seem to internalize that many people generally like the car and want the freedom of personal transport. These groups are now paying for their disregard as left wing governments are starting to get booted out or are on the verge of getting booted out.
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