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Linux market share approaching 4.5% for first time, could hit 5% by 1Q25

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Re: Linux market share approaching 4.5% for first time, could hit 5% by 1Q25

#81
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Microsoft seems determined to push people away from Windows with its user-hostile tactics—built-in ads, constant nagging about Edge, and forced OneDrive backups. It's really soured my experience. I’m done with Windows personally. While I have to use Win11 at work, I won't use it anywhere I have a choice.

No kidding, I'm building a PC for someone to move to Linux, probably MX

Re: Linux market share approaching 4.5% for first time, could hit 5% by 1Q25

#82
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> And of course that's completely arbitrary. Not at all, in the context of gaming on Platform X, the games made for Platform X matter, it is irrelevant how many games from Platform Y, Platform W, Platform Whatever, Platform X can emulatate/translate, those games were not designed, or developed with Platform X in mind to start with. > Games developed for Android are made for touchscreens, so it's not like porting is e…

> in the context of gaming on Platform X, the games made for Platform X matter, it is irrelevant how many games from Platform Y, Platform W, Platform Whatever, Platform X can emulatate/translate, those games were not designed, or developed with Platform X in mind to start with. Irrelevant according to who? Do you even play games? Because gamers don't care at all, and that's why emulators are so popular and why they a…

I play plenty of them, on their original target platforms, also former IGDA member.

Oh Valve cares a lot, specially not having to pay for Windows licenses on SteamDeck.

Re: Linux market share approaching 4.5% for first time, could hit 5% by 1Q25

#84
post #4

Microsoft seems determined to push people away from Windows with its user-hostile tactics—built-in ads, constant nagging about Edge, and forced OneDrive backups. It's really soured my experience. I’m done with Windows personally. While I have to use Win11 at work, I won't use it anywhere I have a choice.

For people who never use anything except macOS / Linux, I challenge you to install Windows and experience it for yourself. The entire OS is like surfing the internet without ad block on. The nags, the pop ups, the malware you can’t remove. It’s truly incredible how awful Windows is. They are just milking the aging demographic who still uses Windows and squeezing as many clicks out of them as they can before Windows i…

> They are just milking the aging demographic

It can't just be an aging demographic.

Young people today use Windows.

Mac has an eerie vibe to it.

Linux sounds too difficult.

And you want to play games.

Re: Linux market share approaching 4.5% for first time, could hit 5% by 1Q25

#85
post #48

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> built-in ads, constant nagging about Edge, and forced OneDrive backups I must be using it wrong because I don't have any of those things.

It's a very common experience. You not seeing it does not invalidate this reality.

Perhaps it doesn't invalidate the reality but it does suggest that the sort who experience it are not very good at figuring out to properly operate an OS and are just as likely to encounter problems when they switch to any other OS.

Re: Linux market share approaching 4.5% for first time, could hit 5% by 1Q25

#86
post #82

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> in the context of gaming on Platform X, the games made for Platform X matter, it is irrelevant how many games from Platform Y, Platform W, Platform Whatever, Platform X can emulatate/translate, those games were not designed, or developed with Platform X in mind to start with. Irrelevant according to who? Do you even play games? Because gamers don't care at all, and that's why emulators are so popular and why they a…

I play plenty of them, on their original target platforms, also former IGDA member. Oh Valve cares a lot, specially not having to pay for Windows licenses on SteamDeck.

They don't have to pay Windows licenses for games running through Proton, so they don't care about the distinction you're making. They care about games running well on Linux, that's it.

Re: Linux market share approaching 4.5% for first time, could hit 5% by 1Q25

#87

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I use Mac as my personal system and used Linux for many years. Yet all this Mac and Linux experience is part of the reason I didn’t hesitate to have two Windows machines: one for work, one for light gaming. Windows isn’t that bad. I use it the way most folks probably do: just a way to get to the application I need. I don’t notice most of the ads. It works. Its auto-update mechanism is better than the Mac’s. I don’t l…

> its auto-update mechanism is better than the Mac’s. Wow, what can a Mac auto-update do that is worse than Windows blocking your screen for 10 minutes during a Powerpoint presentation because the OS is «updating itself». (The only auto-update I know to be worse than Windows is Telsa's, bricking your car in the middle of the road for 45 minutes if you missclick on the touchscreen in traffic)

> Wow, what can a Mac auto-update do that is worse than Windows blocking your screen for 10 minutes

Rename random internal user accounts without informing the user, breaking many third-party package managers with an overnight upgrade? https://determinate.systems/posts/nix-support-for-macos-sequ...

Oh, or it could depreciate an entire class of software you may-or-may-not use without any opportunity for replacement besides downgrading your Mac? https://support.apple.com/en-us/103076

Re: Linux market share approaching 4.5% for first time, could hit 5% by 1Q25

#88
post #4

Microsoft seems determined to push people away from Windows with its user-hostile tactics—built-in ads, constant nagging about Edge, and forced OneDrive backups. It's really soured my experience. I’m done with Windows personally. While I have to use Win11 at work, I won't use it anywhere I have a choice.

For people who never use anything except macOS / Linux, I challenge you to install Windows and experience it for yourself. The entire OS is like surfing the internet without ad block on. The nags, the pop ups, the malware you can’t remove. It’s truly incredible how awful Windows is. They are just milking the aging demographic who still uses Windows and squeezing as many clicks out of them as they can before Windows i…

I'd imagine people using MacOS are well familiar with in-desktop ads, random news articles popping up in your task bar, and notifications that are literally indistinguishable from marketing.

Re: Linux market share approaching 4.5% for first time, could hit 5% by 1Q25

#89

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> its auto-update mechanism is better than the Mac’s. Wow, what can a Mac auto-update do that is worse than Windows blocking your screen for 10 minutes during a Powerpoint presentation because the OS is «updating itself». (The only auto-update I know to be worse than Windows is Telsa's, bricking your car in the middle of the road for 45 minutes if you missclick on the touchscreen in traffic)

> Wow, what can a Mac auto-update do that is worse than Windows blocking your screen for 10 minutes Rename random internal user accounts without informing the user, breaking many third-party package managers with an overnight upgrade? https://determinate.systems/posts/nix-support-for-macos-sequ... Oh, or it could depreciate an entire class of software you may-or-may-not use without any opportunity for replacement bes…

More mundane, but it also unconditionally blasts a bunch of config files under /etc that rightfully belong to the user/administrator. I've not seen any OS as willing to simultaneously Sherlock existing apps and rip out the APIs they depend on, either.

macOS upgrades are indeed generally exceptionally disruptive to applications.

Re: Linux market share approaching 4.5% for first time, could hit 5% by 1Q25

#90
I use Linux on my servers and would love to use it on my laptop.

But there is Outlook and some corporate tools - it should be possible to find workarounds but I am not sure of that (how to read my PSTs for instance).

I try every 2 years for the last ... not sure ... probably 30 years to switch, the time is coming for a new test.

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