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Re: LinkedIn blocked due Meshtastic video in private chat

#81
post #75

We absolutely need a better platform for professional networking. A platform that's not filled with people who dislocate their shoulders trying to pat themselves on the back for some "inspirational" social media babble about the last time they managed to send an email.

God it really is heinous.

However, I don't think it's a consequence of the platform, but of work culture. People are like that because it works, and it works because we're deep, deep into a headlong rush toward annihilation in the name of profit.

The people profiting from destroying every public good - peace, pollution-free air and water and soil, housing, healthcare, etc etc - own basically everything. Our politicians, our media, our military. It's been this way for a long time.

Speaking up against this isn't what most people want to hear. It's uncomfortable - and a distraction from short-term survival. There are no easy answers. It's not a message you'll ever hear amplified on corporate media, and it doesn't fit well into a soundbite or tweet.

There's an ocean of subtle and not-so-subtle messaging across every type of media telling you not to look behind the curtain. There are very real consequences for doing so in a way that gets peoples attention.

LinkedIn rewards superficiality over substance because our society does, workplace culture especially so. Professional posturing is a byproduct of a system that commodifies everything: even authenticity, even revolution.

Essentially, our 'hearts and minds' have been hacked, in every possible way.

That said, if you have any good ideas on how a different platform could change that I'd love to hear them.

Re: LinkedIn blocked due Meshtastic video in private chat

#82
post #43

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The NYT published a very well-reported case (two cases, actually) of Google doing this more than two years ago. This is not a hypothetical -- this is already happening. https://www.nytimes.com/2022/08/21/technology/google-surveil...

A possibility of loosing access to a 20 years old Google account is quite disturbing. I know it's possible to setup a sync of Google drive to a local NAS, I wonder if the same can be done with Gmail archives. Then there's a problem of loosing access to all linked accounts on other services. What can be done about those, switching them to Proton mail.preemptively? Life without SSO is annoying.

I personally access my Gmail account through Thunderbird. My entire history, dating to April 2004, is in there.

Re: LinkedIn blocked due Meshtastic video in private chat

#83
post #75

We absolutely need a better platform for professional networking. A platform that's not filled with people who dislocate their shoulders trying to pat themselves on the back for some "inspirational" social media babble about the last time they managed to send an email.

I won't disagree about the state of LinkedIn, but doesn't the content just come with the territory? In my experience, people who "network" for networking's sake the most are exactly the type of people who self-congratulate and humble brag, so you're bound to get exactly this type of content on a platform that's entirely networking-focused.

Re: LinkedIn blocked due Meshtastic video in private chat

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I feel like posting on public forums only works if you have a big enough name. I want to be wrong about that.

HN will very happily brigade for little guys, too. Every few months there's a new "Stripe closed our account" thread that picks up a lot of steam. Every once in a while it gets Stripe's attention and they fix it. Most of the time the torches burn for a few hours until someone researches the author and figures out they were building a gambling platform or something else explicitly against Stripe's ToS and the thread q…

That's not HN helping. That's because some Stripe employees actively browse HN, especially those threads pertaining to their company, looking to help.

Though some Googlers browse HN, I've never seen where they could actually help someone here - the company is too large and dispersed. Those Googlers are here for leasure, not business.

Re: LinkedIn blocked due Meshtastic video in private chat

#85
post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The NYT published a very well-reported case (two cases, actually) of Google doing this more than two years ago. This is not a hypothetical -- this is already happening. https://www.nytimes.com/2022/08/21/technology/google-surveil...

A possibility of loosing access to a 20 years old Google account is quite disturbing. I know it's possible to setup a sync of Google drive to a local NAS, I wonder if the same can be done with Gmail archives. Then there's a problem of loosing access to all linked accounts on other services. What can be done about those, switching them to Proton mail.preemptively? Life without SSO is annoying.

> I wonder if the same can be done with Gmail archives.

That's called "using an email client" to access email.

The way it originally worked, you know, and still does[1].

I use Vivaldi browser, which has a built-in mail client[2]. You can use Mozilla Thunderbird[3], or (gasp) Outlook.

All of them allow you to maintain a complete, offline, up-to-date copy of your mailbox, which you can export and back up if needs be.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Message_Access_Protoc...

[2] https://vivaldi.com/features/mail/

[3] https://www.thunderbird.net/en-US/

Re: LinkedIn blocked due Meshtastic video in private chat

#86
post #75

We absolutely need a better platform for professional networking. A platform that's not filled with people who dislocate their shoulders trying to pat themselves on the back for some "inspirational" social media babble about the last time they managed to send an email.

God it really is heinous. However, I don't think it's a consequence of the platform, but of work culture. People are like that because it works , and it works because we're deep, deep into a headlong rush toward annihilation in the name of profit. The people profiting from destroying every public good - peace, pollution-free air and water and soil, housing, healthcare, etc etc - own basically everything. Our politici…

Relatively speaking, Instagram and Twitter are far more interesting than LinkedIn. LinkedIn is a special kind of horrible.

Re: LinkedIn blocked due Meshtastic video in private chat

#87
post #74

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If you use your country's ccTLD you also have recourses against your registrar (if you live in a nice enough country and assuming you just broke some ToS and not committed a crime).

Some Britains lost their .eu domain because they no longer fulfilled the requirements.

That’s… not completely unexpected, right?

Re: LinkedIn blocked due Meshtastic video in private chat

#88
post #56

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But get a burner phone and set up a new account then???

That was a burner phone number and they're illegal in my country now.

I travel quite a bit and in most countries I'm required to show my passport to get a sim card. However, in several countries I've bought at least 4 or 5 sim cards by now (non tourist sims I mean) so there doesn't seem to be a limit on how many numbers you can have, they just want each number to be linked to a real person.

Of course it may be different in some countries, but it's worth checking to be sure.

Re: LinkedIn blocked due Meshtastic video in private chat

#89
post #52

I've always wondered about this. What happens if one of the big tech companies makes a mistake and closes your account? LinkedIn is pretty important nowadays when searching for work. Would you be able to make a new account? If not, that seems like a pretty big deal. Same concern with your email, or any of the other big services that we usually depend on. If I just suddenly lost my gmail, I would probably lose access…

It's shockingly frustrating and disheartening. I recently (like, yesterday) got permanently banned from Reddit for "report abuse", for some random semi-nonsense comment I reported a month ago on a meme subreddit. Regardless of how justified that is or isn't -- I only have one side of the story to share of course, and I think I just got caught in some labor-saving measures for their underpaid+overworked admin staff --…

Should’ve quit cold turkey with the rest of us when they took 3rd party clients away.

Re: LinkedIn blocked due Meshtastic video in private chat

#90
post #50

I've always wondered about this. What happens if one of the big tech companies makes a mistake and closes your account? LinkedIn is pretty important nowadays when searching for work. Would you be able to make a new account? If not, that seems like a pretty big deal. Same concern with your email, or any of the other big services that we usually depend on. If I just suddenly lost my gmail, I would probably lose access…

> LinkedIn is pretty important nowadays when searching for work. This is only true if people repeat it and believe it to be true.

>This is only true if people repeat it and believe it to be true.

Which they do.

Particularly, employers.

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