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Re: iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro Max

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Post by ilikeatari »

MangoCoffee wrote: post #55
pistolpeteDK wrote: post #20

Interesting to see how they're marketing increasingly minor improvements as major breakthroughs. 16 Pro: Better camera, more zoom, dedicated camera button… isn’t that it? WiFi 7, faster ray tracing, USB-C/USB 3? Hard to imagine many people really need that. Have we witnessed peak Apple? Apple Watch: minimal updates. AirPods Max: new color. AirPods: some minor tweaks.

Smartphone has reached its peak. What's left to innovate? maybe Huawei's triple-fold phone(?)

I think there is still some room. For me screen technology would be an innovation. Envision a screen that is hybrid between eink and current OLED. Or Siri that is useful (I think thats what they are working on). Or envision other inputs other than your thumbs :-) Maybe ironed out version of what they developed for Apple Vision Pro in terms of eye tracking or some other inputs. So many ideas!!!

Re: iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro Max

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Post by paxys »

Smaller notch? Touch ID? Better battery life? Faster charging? Larger default storage? Nope, let's skip all that and spend most of the event talking about video recording.

Is anyone here actually excited about the features they just announced? Or are people simply upgrading because they get the latest iPhone every year or two by default?

Re: iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro Max

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Post by _ph_ »

laweijfmvo wrote: post #24

So did they just give up on Blood-Oxygen sensing on the Watch? Thought it might be a good time to update my Watch 6 (black titanium) to a 10, since they brought back the black titanium, but they just have no answer for the blood-oxygen lawsuit?

Wow, if they removed the blood oxygen measurement, I will keep my S7 Apple watch. I had planned an upgrade.

Re: iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro Max

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Post by oldstrangers »

paxys wrote: post #82

Smaller notch? Touch ID? Better battery life? Faster charging? Larger default storage? Nope, let's skip all that and spend most of the event talking about video recording. Is anyone here actually excited about the features they just announced? Or are people simply upgrading because they get the latest iPhone every year or two by default?

Judging by the success of TikTok, yes, lots of consumers will love new video features.

Re: iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro Max

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Post by microtonal »

minimaxir wrote: post #51

The Pro variant is unusually poorly differentiated from the base model this cycle: https://www.apple.com/iphone/compare/ The 13 Pro had ProMotion, 14 Pro had Dynamic Island and Always On display, the 15 Pro had USB-C and the Action Button, the 16 Pro...has maybe slightly faster AI? 4k120fps video? USB-C w/ USB 3? Not things most people would care about. ProMotion/Always On is still limited to the Pro models which is…

For me 60Hz on the base model is now a deal breaker. Even our daughter's 300 Euro A54 has a 120Hz screen (though not LTPO). Once you are used to 120Hz on a touch device, it's hard to go back (different on a relatively static computer screen, where I prefer having the high DPI of 5k 27"). So, it's iPhone Pro models until the base model gets >60Hz too.

Re: iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro Max

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Post by nunez »

nabaraz wrote: post #48

I remember people lining up outside apple stores on the pre-order day. What has happened now? Have we seen the peak of smartphones until something new comes along and spur a new super-cycle?

Online ordering and Apple scaling production to meet demand.

Re: iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro Max

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Post by drivers99 »

rootusrootus wrote: post #12
ashconnor wrote: post #5

Shocked they are still using 128GB as the starting storage size.

I guess they have more information about usage patterns than we do. Anecdotally, I have a 256GB iPhone, and I use it consistently for a whole variety of things, and my usage is just under 94GB. I'd bet that my 'normal' family members use a good bit less than that.

I'm at 166 GB out of 256 GB. Every time I upgrade my iPhone (average every 5 years), I get the most storage available (after learning my lesson on the iPhone 4) and it ends up being 4x bigger than before.

iPod touch (32GB), if you ignore this

iPhone 4 (16GB), 2010

iPhone 6 (64GB), 2014

iPhone SE 2nd gen (256GB), 2020

iPhone 16 (1 TB)?, 2024

Every time, I think "that's probably way more than I'll need", but I guess in 6 years or so I'll upgrade to the 4 TB model. Or wait for next year's model, maybe another SE will come out...

Re: iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro Max

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Post by paulpan »

minimaxir wrote: post #51

The Pro variant is unusually poorly differentiated from the base model this cycle: https://www.apple.com/iphone/compare/ The 13 Pro had ProMotion, 14 Pro had Dynamic Island and Always On display, the 15 Pro had USB-C and the Action Button, the 16 Pro...has maybe slightly faster AI? 4k120fps video? USB-C w/ USB 3? Not things most people would care about. ProMotion/Always On is still limited to the Pro models which is…

Are there new hardware features announced for the 16 Pro? Apple definitely would love to add an exclusive feature but it seems like negligible pickings. The "Fusion" or "tetraprism" camera is the only other one that comes to mind.

Fundamentally Apple wants to leverage their supply chain to maximize shared parts between the Pro and base iPhones. Lack of hardware innovations makes it hard to create product differentiation.

Heck, even the A18 Pro chip seems a marginal upgrade over the base A18 chip: https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2024/09/apples-a18-chip-desi...

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