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> The friend has assumed that your goal is to "efficiently" reach the goal of a delicious pie, or perhaps even to create a new kind of pie. But that's not the goal at all! > Baking a pie is a creative act. It's personal, it's inherently delightful, it's an act of caring for others. It's also a craft that one can improve at over time. Just buying the "best" pie would defeat the point. Not sure author realises the iron…
A pie is just for enjoy a Snack. Software is mostly for getting work done
Hmm... While I try to refrain from picking sides in a beatdown on an analogy, that's an interesting suggestion that seems worth examining.
There's a lot of software I use that isn't for getting work done. Even the software that's meant for getting work done doesn't have to be used that way.
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> Geez. I meant the concept of a cover vs the concept of an original. A cover is ultimately a performance, and is different from writing a new song. This is so well understood within the music community that a song even has separate copyrights for the song itself and a recording of its performance (even by the songwriter). If only it were that simple. There are constantly cases bought to court about similarities in o…
> If only it were that simple. There are constantly cases bought to court about similarities in one persons work to another artists. Then you have other issues around what constitutes a derivative work. And so many original songs sample other artists songs and pay them royalties, that's not a cover either. It's increasingly difficult to accept that you are replying to jp57 in good faith. They are not talking about th…
My point is that the whole concept of originality is a blurry mess and hugely subjective.
To demonstrate that point, I was giving other examples of copying in music. Let’s remember that it was me who introduced the analogy of a cover when the OP examples how bands might pride themselves on originality. I’m giving examples that his statement is false as often as it is true.
Maybe I’m misunderstanding the OPs point of view. Or maybe I’m just too old for this debate because trends are usually cyclical. If either of those are true then I’m sorry and I’ll bow out.
> The friend has assumed that your goal is to "efficiently" reach the goal of a delicious pie, or perhaps even to create a new kind of pie. But that's not the goal at all! > Baking a pie is a creative act. It's personal, it's inherently delightful, it's an act of caring for others. It's also a craft that one can improve at over time. Just buying the "best" pie would defeat the point. Not sure author realises the iron…
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> I’m genuinely confused by your comment. Pies can be duplicated. You just grab the same ingredients and follow the same recipe. That’s just a different pie made with the same ingredients and recipe, it’s not the same pie I ate yesterday, it’s not a duplicate. I can never have that pie I ate yesterday again. I can, however, make as many perfect duplicates of software as I want.
> a different pie made with the same ingredients and recipe, it’s not the same pie Pie of Theseus has entered the chat
This is a good point. The comment section implicitly argues for novelty because it seeks a dopamine hit for something new -- after all, that's what people are looking for when they browse an aggregator! However, novel isn't everything even if you get more Internet points for it.
Is it original to execute something really well? Some would say yes, and some would say no. Lots of software that has had an outsized impact started out as very similar to other things, with "just" some improvements here and there. And I guarantee you there were over-eager commenters telling people to not be excited because it isn't new enough to them.
This isn't arguing for toxic positivity, either. Just a recognition that the bored/cynical users need for novelty is not something that everything listed on the Internet has to fill.
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Indeed if that's the response, you either have an acquaintance with 0 emotional intelligence that is by default like an elephant in porcelain shop in relationships, probably move on since its a lifelong effort to even just sustain such friendship. Or its an envious a-hole since such message is clearly denigrating, still lacks basic emotional intelligence, and then just run and don't look back. If I ever saw 2 women c…
The people closest to you are the ones who are supposed to be able to tell you that "you're wrong" in the least hurtful way. "Support everything I do blindly" is NOT what friends do its what sycophants do. Your friend is supposed to lift you up when your right, and tell you "you are being a moron" when your wrong.
??? is this a troll post? A pie is a physical object which enjoys a barrier to competition by being geographically near the consumer - other pies are not near your mouth. A pie degrades quickly over time - last month's pie is not a competitor to today's pie. A pie is destroyed during consumption - the pie your friend ate cannot be then eaten by you, no matter how delicious they say it was. Software (and especially we…
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What do you think motivates people to submit a Show HN? Typically they expect to get something out of it that they don’t get by their project just sitting on GitHub.
I don't know about you but I'm speaking from experience, not hypothetically. I shared multiple open source side projects where I made something for myself then shared it with the world. > Typically they expect to get something out of it that they don’t get by their project just sitting on GitHub. Can you expand? the vast majority of open source projects don't make a dime. I don't see the ulterior motive you're talkin…
I’m not talking about revenue. I’m talking about the fact that sharing their creation usually comes with expectations of some (at least psychological) benefit for the sharer. For example, some people want to receive praise for the project. Or they may want to attract collaborators. Still others actually do seek criticism in order to potentially improve the work.
Therefore, “sharing without expectations” doesn’t seem a likely occurrence in that context. People do have expectations, if only unconsciously, and others react with the understanding of such expectations being present.