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CrowdStrike representatives issue trademark infringement notice to ClownStrike

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Re: CrowdStrike representatives issue trademark infringement notice to ClownStrike

#81
post #5

CrowdStrike/CSC has owned at least clownstrike.com and clownstrike.net since 2012, but they weren't on the ball with those new TLDs it seems.

This is true [0]! But even more surprisingly clownstrike.com redirects to crowdstrike.com. I am surprised why they may have thought this is a good idea, but it means that we can actually use clownstrike.com instead to reference it in the web.

[0] https://www.whois.com/whois/clownstrike.com

Re: CrowdStrike representatives issue trademark infringement notice to ClownStrike

#82

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In this case Cloudflare, in a spasm of comprehension failure, soiled themselves further by proving unable to distinguish between a trademark complaint and a copyright complaint, and erroneously labelled the former as the latter. Irrespective of the fair use merits on display, the DMCA simply does not apply to trademark disputes.

Since this is "their core business" it's hard to believe that this material misrepresentation wasn't knowing or willful. I believe they've partially opened themselves to a counter suit on this point.

Yeah, my guess is that CloudFlare uses CrowdStrike as their EDR and thus have a cozy business relationship with them...

Re: CrowdStrike representatives issue trademark infringement notice to ClownStrike

#83
post #33

FWIW: CSC is a company that other companies hire to act on its behalf. It's very likely that the company you work for uses CSC as it's registered agent in the State of Delaware for administrative purposes (CSC doesn't really do anything other than exist on paper and file annual forms to satisfy legal and compliance requirements necessary for companies to exist in the US). I wasn't aware they file DMCA requests on beh…

> I wasn't aware they file DMCA requests on behalf of companies... that seems off brand for them.

CSC is a well know high value domain registrar. Similar to MarkMonitor. I'm not surprised CSC does brand protection, also similar to MarkMonitor.

When I was at an employer that became a MarkMonitor customer, we didn't have enough domain business to meet the minimum spend, so we started using the Brand Protection "for free". Sometimes they have a hair trigger, we had our own accessory apps taken down occasionally. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Previous registrar was NetworkSolutions, lol; they had a customer service agent get phished, and the phishermen set new NS records for several domains, including ours. Major PITA.

Re: CrowdStrike representatives issue trademark infringement notice to ClownStrike

#85
post #10

I wonder to what extent companies consider the reputational damage these kinds of enforcement actions cause. I recently came across this when googling for information on a small Biotech startup: https://udrp.adr.eu/decisions/detail?id=65fab3e46fc02956a010... Will probably be the first thing I remember when I hear their name.

Oh wow, they sued someone who used his last name as a domain name because they feel like their trademark should allow them to prohibit him from using his family name ... And obviously they registered their trademark after he started using his name.

Prince Rogers Nelson's given name was a registered trademark of Warner Music. It took that whole stunt with him changing his name to Love Symbol #2 to get them to relent.

Re: CrowdStrike representatives issue trademark infringement notice to ClownStrike

#86
Streisand effect in full play. Many people even in HN might not have known this parody site before, but will now know and actively engage with it. It's a shame people running these multi hundred billion dollar industries, never seem to learn basic unintended consequences of actions in socio-economic dynamics.

Re: CrowdStrike representatives issue trademark infringement notice to ClownStrike

#88
post #31

CrowdStrike definitely has the chops when it comes to taking sites down, I'll give them that.

I guess this site is using Linux or BSD and they had to venture outside their usual modus operandi to DMCA... /s

They are quite capable of taking down Linux servers too:

https://www.techspot.com/news/103899-crowdstrike-also-broke-...

Re: CrowdStrike representatives issue trademark infringement notice to ClownStrike

#89

> I’m most definitely not trying to put CloudFlare in the middle on this… so I told CloudFlare that I will take the site off of CloudFlare; however, it is staying on the internet… I mean that’s kind, but the whole point of DMCA safe harbor provisions is that they aren’t in the middle of this. They send along the notice, you file a counter notice, and that’s it for their involvement, yeah? If CrowdStrike wants to pres…

In the meantime, though, even if you submitted a counter-notice, your content gets taken down for 14 days. That's likely why he migrated away.
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