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Re: Joe Biden stands down as Democratic candidate

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Post by laidoffamazon »

richrichie wrote: post #72
ahartmetz wrote: post #41

Oof. This guy has been the biggest positive surprise of the US presidents in my lifetime. Expectations were low, but he actually turned out to be a good president (from a European perspective). No new wars, no more talk about shifting defense focus to Asia, generally nothing unreasonable. Good support for Ukraine, no doubts about NATO - rather the opposite. Basically, the rich uncle on the other side of the pond has…

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> He came to power under questionable circumstances, winning none of the bell weather counties, most votes ever received (even more than Obama), massive dumps of mail in ballots after the close of the election day, etc.

Honestly, I think the rest of your point can be safely ignored after saying something like this

Re: Joe Biden stands down as Democratic candidate

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Post by dangjoker »

laidoffamazon wrote: post #81
richrichie wrote: post #72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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> He came to power under questionable circumstances, winning none of the bell weather counties, most votes ever received (even more than Obama), massive dumps of mail in ballots after the close of the election day, etc. Honestly, I think the rest of your point can be safely ignored after saying something like this

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Re: Joe Biden stands down as Democratic candidate

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Post by slater »

trentnix wrote: post #4
skilled wrote: post #2

It’s for the best. The man is not in his best form and he has repeatedly shown that he isn’t. He attempted to rectify the situation since the debate but even those attempts fell short. Let’s see who is going to take the mantle now. /edit: he is endorsing Kamala, https://nitter.poast.org/JoeBiden/status/1815087772216303933

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Don't forget, Saint Ronald I. was (allegedly) basically a potato in the latter year(s) of his presidency. So there's precedence, with such a situation.

Re: Joe Biden stands down as Democratic candidate

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Post by maxerickson »

gumby wrote: post #24
caminante wrote: post #9

Shouldn't he resign and let Kamala step in?

Then the senate would refuse to approve a VP replacement. Remember that leading up to counting the electoral votes loose-lipped GOP senators were saying that Pence (the VP) wouldn’t be counting the days electoral votes? How do you think that would proceed?

The problem is that the Republican controlled house would have to confirm the appointed VP. The senate might take a minute, but it would likely get it done.

Re: Joe Biden stands down as Democratic candidate

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Post by lr1970 »

ahartmetz wrote: post #41

Oof. This guy has been the biggest positive surprise of the US presidents in my lifetime. Expectations were low, but he actually turned out to be a good president (from a European perspective). No new wars, no more talk about shifting defense focus to Asia, generally nothing unreasonable. Good support for Ukraine, no doubts about NATO - rather the opposite. Basically, the rich uncle on the other side of the pond has…

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Re: Joe Biden stands down as Democratic candidate

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Post by richrichie »

laidoffamazon wrote: post #81
richrichie wrote: post #72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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> He came to power under questionable circumstances, winning none of the bell weather counties, most votes ever received (even more than Obama), massive dumps of mail in ballots after the close of the election day, etc. Honestly, I think the rest of your point can be safely ignored after saying something like this

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Re: Joe Biden stands down as Democratic candidate

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Post by Mountain_Skies »

antonvs wrote: post #14
trentnix wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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That doesn’t follow at all. There’s a process for removing him if enough people in congress believed that it was an issue, but there’s no reason to do so at this point in the presidency. Even the Republicans aren’t likely to try that.

A submarine launched nuclear missile takes about six minutes to hit its target. Presidents probably shouldn't even be permitted to drink alcohol during their time in office as responding to nuclear attacks is one of the major duties of office, even if one we hope they never have to perform.

Re: Joe Biden stands down as Democratic candidate

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Post by purple_ferret »

ahartmetz wrote: post #41

Oof. This guy has been the biggest positive surprise of the US presidents in my lifetime. Expectations were low, but he actually turned out to be a good president (from a European perspective). No new wars, no more talk about shifting defense focus to Asia, generally nothing unreasonable. Good support for Ukraine, no doubts about NATO - rather the opposite. Basically, the rich uncle on the other side of the pond has…

Unfortunately his domestic achievements have been somewhat mediocre.

His signature achievements essentially were one time cash payments to people.

I really do think his major failure was not pushing for a lasting achievement like implementing federal parental leave. He had the chance, but opted for a 1 year extension of child tax credits.

And of course the US has an illegal immigration problem. European right on the rise from 1/10th the number of illegal immigrants the US gets.

Re: Joe Biden stands down as Democratic candidate

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Post by kccoder »

lr1970 wrote: post #85
ahartmetz wrote: post #41

Oof. This guy has been the biggest positive surprise of the US presidents in my lifetime. Expectations were low, but he actually turned out to be a good president (from a European perspective). No new wars, no more talk about shifting defense focus to Asia, generally nothing unreasonable. Good support for Ukraine, no doubts about NATO - rather the opposite. Basically, the rich uncle on the other side of the pond has…

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Biden started those wars? American troops are on the ground in those conflicts?

Re: Joe Biden stands down as Democratic candidate

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Post by HaZeust »

I am, admittedly, very glad that Biden stuck to his word in 2020 that he will be a single-term incumbent president for the last 4 years... I just wish the DNC kept their word on bolstering a more compelling candidate within that timeframe as well.

They had 3 1/2 years to bolster the reputation of Kamala, and largely sidelined her after using her as a play for minority vote. Now they're (likely) running her in a remaining timespan of a little over 3 months left before election -- after no one has thought of her since the last election. This isn't good.

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