From the bug report: 1. Open https://www.google.com/ in a tab 2. Open https://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/firefox/nightly/ in the same tab 3. Click on Go back button (or Alt+Left Arrow) 4. Click on Go forward button (Alt+Right Arrow) 5. Select some text 6. Right click It doesn't seem like it's a website doing something it shouldn't be and breaking RFC. It's really a bug in firefox. Also, the scope is very specific and kinda…
Copy and Paste context menu entries sometimes disabled when they should not be
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Re: Copy and Paste context menu entries sometimes disabled when they should not be
#82I switched to Edge because of this bug.
"I got annoyed with the occasional inability to use the 'Copy' menu item and couldn't fathom training my muscle memory to instead use ctrl+c, so I switched to a browser that spies on me and actively ignores my consent." I really don't get how people work, sometimes. Stuff like this tells me the privacy fight is just completely unwinnable. It's not even that people don't care; people actively make choices that make th…
I'm afraid it is, in the current state of things.
Another depressing example is how we collectively seem to accepted to keep referring to "unique fingerprinting and observation throughout any activity of the web and apps" as "Cookies! :))", while way too many people even blame EU privacy laws for all the purposefully annoying and misleading dark patterns used by the very entities spying on them.
But you can't blame anyone for choosing convenience and preference over a threat that is utterly overwhelming to mitigate, to the point of feeling impossible to avoid anyway.
Not to mention that a number of people rely on very specific UI features -- OP could well be my colleague, who has a muscular condition and simply cannot press "Ctrl + C" without discomfortable effort, or by constantly moving his other hand between mouse and keyboard. Others in turn may even be completely unable to do either, and fully rely on a pointer device to use GUI applications.
The only chance to win the privacy war is by providing and maintaining free and open alternatives that respect and protect your privacy, and are not only on par with, but better and more user friendly than the existing spyware.
Re: Copy and Paste context menu entries sometimes disabled when they should not be
#83Earlier quoted context omitted.
its a conundrum. WebKit is a great engine, but nearly all good implementations are provided by Corps who's interests have very little to do with providing a good browser, and lots to do with what you do with that browser. Firefox in turn might be one of the last major alternative Engines that is maintained by a company who's mission indeed is in a large parts to provide you with a good browser, but seems to progressi…
*whose mission
Re: Copy and Paste context menu entries sometimes disabled when they should not be
#84Not sure why this is big news, big enough to be in the #1 spot right now. From reading the comments on the bug, it seems to be an issue that's hard to reliably reproduce, and -- despite how simple it sounds from the editorialized HN title -- it involves interactions between different parts of the browser, and it's hard to track down and fix. Nonetheless, there are some proposed fixes, and I expect a near-future relea…
It's easy enough to work around, but it's also just terrible optics. Why does something like this take the better part of a year to fix?
Re: Copy and Paste context menu entries sometimes disabled when they should not be
#85Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Judging by the comments a lot of people in this thread have been affected by this issue. I'm sincerely surprised by how many people on Hacker News are apparently copy/pasting with the context menu rather than using Ctrl+C. PSA for some common keyboard shortcuts: Alt+Left to navigate back (Alt+Right to navigate forward) Ctrl+T to open a new tab (Ctrl+Shift+T to reopen previously closed tab) Ctrl+N to open a new wind…
A person selecting text on a webpage is usually using the mouse already. It's reasonable to use the same device to choose the copy command.
But more seriously - FF isn't vim and no I'm not installing vim keybindings. And I do use the keyboard a lot (I've had to teach coworkers the tips for tab navigation for example), when in "type/entry" mode (oh maybe VIM is the right metaphor hmm).
Anyways, sometimes you're just chilling with a few tabs and wanna pop back and forth between a few, and not be in type mode... So mouse it is. And if you're using mouse and hand off the keyboard it's far easier to just use the right click (I've only started doing this the past year or two... likewise I've taken to right click, back from the popup menu instead of dragging mouse across to the back arrow. (but if on keyboard yeah I alt-arrow it).
What i love is how everyone just demands everyone use the interface the exact same way for all purposes and times.
I do get frustrated at my roomie who won't just do it my way, when I ask her to search for something or I'm trying to help with something technical and she's in control of her laptop... though, and in those times I'm 100% right and legit. That's the only exception to my paragraph above.
Re: Copy and Paste context menu entries sometimes disabled when they should not be
#86Earlier quoted context omitted.
The website you are visiting might be breaking it. There are many sites which will force that option to grey out upon right-click. This is by design.
> The website you are visiting might be breaking it. There are many sites which will force that option to grey out upon right-click. No, this is a new thing that happens on sites that weren't and aren't doing that. Also tab-switching fixes it.
Maybe there's more than one cause, but the reason I hate this bug so much is because simple fixes like just alt-tabbing or even closing and re-opening or full-reload doesn't work. I'm like 99% certain that's the case. I'll have to verify next time this happens. It seems to happen at least a couple times a month.
Re: Copy and Paste context menu entries sometimes disabled when they should not be
#87That said, I'm not gonna slag the Mozilla developers over it. I have places where I wish the Firefox crew approached certain things differently, and I've criticized them for not being responsive to the community in the past. But this seems like something that isn't easy to fix, but which they are committed to fixing. So I'm happy to just wait it out.[2]
[1][2]: "can't wait" -> metaphorically speaking, of course. :-)
Re: Copy and Paste context menu entries sometimes disabled when they should not be
#88Not sure why this is big news, big enough to be in the #1 spot right now. From reading the comments on the bug, it seems to be an issue that's hard to reliably reproduce, and -- despite how simple it sounds from the editorialized HN title -- it involves interactions between different parts of the browser, and it's hard to track down and fix. Nonetheless, there are some proposed fixes, and I expect a near-future relea…
i thought i was crazy but had enough times where copying didn't work and i thought it was my computer but seems i wasn't crazy
Re: Copy and Paste context menu entries sometimes disabled when they should not be
#89Earlier quoted context omitted.
> The website you are visiting might be breaking it. There are many sites which will force that option to grey out upon right-click. No, this is a new thing that happens on sites that weren't and aren't doing that. Also tab-switching fixes it.
I'm pretty sure that merely tab-switching hasn't fixed it for me. I've done both mouse and alt-tab, i've ctrl-w'd the tab and ctrl-shift-T'd it. I've opened the same site in a new tab and it still wouldn't work. I've had to completely shut the browser down. Maybe it's different between Windows and Linux, perhaps (I'm using Windows for this). Maybe there's more than one cause, but the reason I hate this bug so much is…
Re: Copy and Paste context menu entries sometimes disabled when they should not be
#90From the bug report: 1. Open https://www.google.com/ in a tab 2. Open https://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/firefox/nightly/ in the same tab 3. Click on Go back button (or Alt+Left Arrow) 4. Click on Go forward button (Alt+Right Arrow) 5. Select some text 6. Right click It doesn't seem like it's a website doing something it shouldn't be and breaking RFC. It's really a bug in firefox. Also, the scope is very specific and kinda…