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What's necessary for the US to maintain its position at the top of the world order. The very article you linked states that the Guatemalan coups were initiated because of fears of communist influence.
That was doubtless the case in Guatemala, but Guatemala in the 20th century is not Bolivia in the 21st.
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That was doubtless the case in Guatemala, but Guatemala in the 20th century is not Bolivia in the 21st.
I'm sorry - are you claiming to have evidence that the US was involved in the recent events in Bolivia? If so, by all means, share with us.
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Lately? HN is a forum derived from an American company and promoting Silicon Valley culture. Most of the points of view of everything (not only politics) are strongly skewed towards American culture and beliefs. I would find it surprising if it was different .
Roughly 10% of HN is in SFBA, 50% in US, and 30% in Europe. SFBA people are a small minority here. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40745850
And HN is anything but a random sample people from a given country; to be part of the tech scene you kinda have to take an interest in what is happening in the US and it certainly pays to be pro-SV since historically they provided a lot of well paid jobs. That'd be a huge bias in opinion.
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Roughly 10% of HN is in SFBA, 50% in US, and 30% in Europe. SFBA people are a small minority here. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40745850
There'd probably be a fairly strong seeding effect though. And HN is anything but a random sample people from a given country; to be part of the tech scene you kinda have to take an interest in what is happening in the US and it certainly pays to be pro-SV since historically they provided a lot of well paid jobs. That'd be a huge bias in opinion.
I will say this, though, and it's a wild guess so take it as you will: the median opinion among American tech industry workers about the government of Bolivia is: not, in any way at all, ever once thinking or caring about the government of Bolivia.
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> we elected an opposition leader who favors capitalism. unfortunately, he's a total nutbag many such cases!
no, nothing like this has ever happened before in recorded history. probably that's fortunate i mean people have elected all kinds of madmen as heads of state, so that's not the unprecedented part. but i don't think any country has ever elected a minarchist as a head of state. two weeks ago he gave a speech at a cato forum here describing the state he now heads as by nature a violent and criminal organization. he may…
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no, nothing like this has ever happened before in recorded history. probably that's fortunate i mean people have elected all kinds of madmen as heads of state, so that's not the unprecedented part. but i don't think any country has ever elected a minarchist as a head of state. two weeks ago he gave a speech at a cato forum here describing the state he now heads as by nature a violent and criminal organization. he may…
You're closer to the action than me and very probably much better informed, but the opinion I've formed from across the Southern Pacific is that Millei's 'minarchist' rhetoric is mostly theatre and that he's in fact very similar to the many leaders that have been put in place or helped into power in South America before by the (mostly external) financial interests who want to keep plundering and extracting its resour…
certainly external financial interests are helping him a great deal, and there's been significant plundering historically, but it remains to be seen what happens with that. since perón, investing in non-portable assets in argentina has historically been a 'heads i win, tails you lose' deal with the government; your losses will be privatized, but your profits will be nationalized. so generally it's the argentine politicians doing the plundering, not barrick gold or the ypf investors
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im noticing lately that comments critical of America is routinely downvoted here. All of what you wrote holds true.
I think blaming the US every time a developing nation screws up is a little bit of a tired trope.
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> if you care what OAS says, officially deemed fraudulent. I do not care. Later studies contradicted and criticized OAS conclusion. OAS was a player in the 2019 coup: https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2020/02/26/bolivia-d... https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3621475 > Anez, an unapologetic right-winger appointed by standard constitutional succession rules, What rules? She was not Evo Morales s…
Anez was another in a long line of Bolivian heads of state that terribly abused their power. If you're trying to position me to defend the right-wing elite of any country in South America, you're barking up the wrong tree. But Anez assumed the role of interim president after a constitutional crisis, promised prompt elections, and peacefully transferred power back to Morales party, which then immediately had her impri…
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Anez was another in a long line of Bolivian heads of state that terribly abused their power. If you're trying to position me to defend the right-wing elite of any country in South America, you're barking up the wrong tree. But Anez assumed the role of interim president after a constitutional crisis, promised prompt elections, and peacefully transferred power back to Morales party, which then immediately had her impri…
That's a really generous reading of events. My reading was that Anez and her cohort orchestrated a successful coup, but couldn't hold power and were forced to concede and hold elections, in which the party which had been deposed in Anez's coup again won the majority vote
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Ehhhh... yeah it's fun to beat up on the top dog, but statements like "US has engaged in 64 covert and six overt attempts at regime change" is a technique to convince people "USA are the debils" who aren't going to dig any further. When you look at the details, i start to go "ehhh...". The 1953 Iranian coup was against Mosaddegh, who had given himself "emergency powers" for another 12 months, was losing members of hi…
Cherry-picked example don't make a strong argument. When explaining the 1973 military coup on a democratically elected president in Chile, what makes you go, "ehhhh..."?
Not to mention that Allende was far from democratic at the time. He had ignored the Supreme Court, the Senate voted to call his actions “unlawful” in a majority vote.
It was a crisis that would result in a coup whether or the CIA was there. Not to mention the CIA played no role in the actual coup itself. It may have involved itself with dissents, but Allende was leaving no matter what they did.