16° doesn't seem that impressive, waiting for the full 360°.
I'm holding on for 365
Impossibly thin fabric could cool you down by 16-plus degrees
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I am concerned about all kinds of nanowires. If they are sufficiently strong, they should be able to damage your lungs in the exact same way that asbestos does. Not through a chemical reaction, but a mechanical process that damages cells. The damage makes it easier to mutate. Which creates a long-term potential for cancer. Silver nanowires should not be as strong as carbon nanotubes. But are they stronger than cell w…
Asbestos is dangerous because it will not decompose in your body.
Neither will silver.
Re: Impossibly thin fabric could cool you down by 16-plus degrees
#83I feel like the title should qualify that this is 16degF
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If something is good for public health or safety, the best way to deploy it is to start selling it now. Exponential growth of production rates means that every day, month, or year you delay is many thousands or millions of units not produced. If you care about public safety and health, your best route is to find a way to align it with something profitable. That’s just the truth.
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I also think there is not much more effort to type °C than °F, unless the writer isn't familiar with the topic. (The article does include both units. It is only the title trying to be sensationalist)
But why? Does a French website use American units? It’s not that hard for them either right?
80% of people who can read the article are unfamiliar with Fahrenheit.
There is no need for anyone outside the USA and Canada to use Fahrenheit, ever.
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From the things I've seen, it almost always comes down to IP issues clashing with economic realities. The person holding the rights either can't get it done and/or won't license it to people who can (at economically viable rates), so it languishes. It's especially frustrating since the whole IP system was supposed to encourage innovation.
Can you tell more about the things you've seen? If no one offers enough money, perhaps their research found it's just a bunch of hot air and not actually a viable design.
That's not at all what the parent comment is saying.
Also, such materials are real.
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Regarding nanowires, for what it's worth, nano silver is used as a highly effective antimicrobial skin cream, and none of its users complain of an allergy. In this way it also accelerates wound healing. It is even more benign than some skin antibiotics that trigger an allergy. Given this evidence, I don't think nanoscale use of silver in clothing is going to be a a concern for the vast majority of people. Disclaimer:…
I think the concern is about when the clothing starts falling apart and nanowires end up in the air of your room and eventually your lungs/stomach, like nanoplastics cross into tissue and individual cells, accumulate, turn up in sperm/placenta etc.
It turns out that some small amount of nano silver is perfectly manageable by the body, although I make no claim for the lungs. People even apply or drink it as an antimicrobial medicine without issue. It's when they take too much silver over time that it becomes an issue.
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I think the concern is about when the clothing starts falling apart and nanowires end up in the air of your room and eventually your lungs/stomach, like nanoplastics cross into tissue and individual cells, accumulate, turn up in sperm/placenta etc.
It turns out that some small amount of nano silver is perfectly manageable by the body, although I make no claim for the lungs. People even apply or drink it as an antimicrobial medicine without issue. It's when they take too much silver over time that it becomes an issue.
The key is "nano wires". What we drink and eat gets pooped out and doesn't permeate organ tissue and cells. Nano stuff does.
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Can you tell more about the things you've seen? If no one offers enough money, perhaps their research found it's just a bunch of hot air and not actually a viable design.
That's not at all what the parent comment is saying. Also, such materials are real.
> That's not at all what the parent comment is saying.
That's what I'm saying. It's how discussion works, he said one thing, I said something different.
> Also, such materials are real.
Real but not feasible for any reason. The other commenter didn't give any info that would deny that. You didn't, too. I don't blame you, it would take non trivial amount of time and money to just understand if an idea doesn't work out in real world. Maybe manufacturing too expensive, maybe there's some blocking regulation, maybe health hazards for workers, environmental hazards... But yeah of course a random guy on HN knows for sure it's the IP law that's always ruining things. Who would care about potential drawbacks of some tech, we got PFAS into blood of probably everyone now so why stop there?
Re: Impossibly thin fabric could cool you down by 16-plus degrees
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But why? Does a French website use American units? It’s not that hard for them either right?
80% of people who can read the article are unfamiliar with Fahrenheit. There is no need for anyone outside the USA and Canada to use Fahrenheit, ever.
Le Monde should realize that French-speaking Americans/Canadians are reading their articles and make sure everything is written from that context.
Oh no they shouldn't, because that's idiotic; as it is for any national publication in any language. You want to read foreign articles, you deal with the conversions/idioms/colloquialisms/etc.