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Re: Lindroid

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Post by Nexxxeh »

LoganDark wrote: post #74
Nexxxeh wrote: post #73

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think, probably unintentionally, you've misjudged or ignored the tone your message is likely to be read as having. To me, your comment comes across as having a rude and insulting tone. I think the person you were replying to read it in a similar tone to me based on their response. ("No need to be patronizing.") Is that the tone you intended? A better way of handling it may have been with a simple, "What does TEE me…

I feel like this part of their comment: > According to Piaget[3], people are able to identify that others don't know what's in their heads sometime between ages two and seven. is a little far to be a simple misjudged tone, even if it was intended as a joke. I did find it a bit funny but it still felt a bit insulting too.

Yeah, I'm sorry that they spoke to you like that. It was unwarranted, as was the subsequent benefit of the doubt I gave them. It's apparently just the attitude they communicate with others with. Unfortunate.

Re: Lindroid

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Post by Nexxxeh »

nobody9999 wrote: post #79
protonbob wrote: post #78

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I'm pretty sure you told the GP how they should or should not interact with others by telling them not to use acronyms. I'm don't understand how that's any different.

>'m pretty sure you told the GP how they should or should not interact with others by telling them not to use acronyms. I'm don't understand how that's any different. Except I did nothing of the sort. I took the information given and attempted to interpolate (unsuccessfully, I might add) what OP was talking about. While I did make the point that OP should have realized that others don't know what they're talking abou…

>I took the information given and attempted to interpolate (unsuccessfully, I might add) what OP was talking about.

You could have used your brain and just Googled "TEE Android". But by all means, despite not having either the domain-specific knowledge nor the common sense to manage to Google it competently, feel entitled to be an arse about it. I trust you can read my tone here?

Re: Lindroid

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Post by sangnoir »

LoganDark wrote: post #62
freedomben wrote: post #55

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I also have OP7Pro (what an amazing phone btw), and yes, we're pretty much sufficiently out of date that they still work - a wild but true reality we find ourselves in.

I mean my Messages app. I installed it years ago and never updated, because why would I ever updated an SMS app, the only thing that can ever happen is for things to break that used to be working, lol. I don't even know if I run A12. I do know, though, that the OP7Pro is one of the last Android devices that are whitelisted by Google to pass SafetyNet without hardware-backed attestation. Shame that TWRP wiped my worki…

> because why would I ever updated an SMS app, the only thing that can ever happen is for things to break that used to be working, lol.

Text parsing/rendering is a security Achilles' heel, and SMS app vulnerabilities are commonly exploited entry points for persistent malware from the likes of NSO. All things being equal, should update SMS apps for the security updates.

Re: Lindroid

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Post by karussell »

nolist_policy wrote: post #58
karussell wrote: post #31

How does it compare to Termux / UserLAnd? See https://termux.dev and https://userland.tech For my purposes Lindroid seems less powerful as it requires root and AOSP patches.

Userland is dog slow since it's based on proot. Termux needs to patch most of it's packages and is limited in what it can run since everything links to bionic libc.

Interesting. For me Userland is usable and not really slow.

Re: Lindroid

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Post by LoganDark »

nobody9999 wrote: post #76
LoganDark wrote: post #74

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I feel like this part of their comment: > According to Piaget[3], people are able to identify that others don't know what's in their heads sometime between ages two and seven. is a little far to be a simple misjudged tone, even if it was intended as a joke. I did find it a bit funny but it still felt a bit insulting too.

>is a little far to be a simple misjudged tone, even if it was intended as a joke. I did find it a bit funny but it still felt a bit insulting too. No. Not a joke. Just pointing out something you already knew: That I (or anyone else) don't know what's going on inside your mind unless you tell me. That you ignored such a simple truth and didn't think to define your terms was a waste of my time. As such, I felt insulte…

> That you ignored such a simple truth and didn't think to define your terms was a waste of my time. As such, I felt insulted at your (apparent) complete lack of respect for the time and attention of others.

My neglecting to define it was not because I was ignoring that not everyone knows everything I do.

There are quite a few acronyms that are widespread enough on HN (or in programming in general) to be used without defining them anew every single time (such as, say, "API"). I hadn't considered that of those, "TEE" is not one. That doesn't mean I don't understand the concept of individual knowledge, only that I don't always put a complete effort into my drive-by comments, and evidently had not into that one.

Even at that point, it would have taken less time for you to ask for a definition without additional remarks that imply I should have known better. Who are you to imply I didn't know better? I'd say that was the real waste of your time, considering it makes up over 50% of the comment.

Additionally, I don't have a "complete lack of respect" for others' time and attention. I would've edited the comment to fix it if it had still been within the edit window. I apologized for having left the definition out because that was an honest mistake, and it was never meant to waste anyone's time or attention. Even before the apology, I don't think it was very reasonable for you to have assumed that the waste of time was intentional, and replied in the way you did.

> Take that as insulting if you wish, and if you find it insulting enough, please ignore me completely going forward. I promise you I won't mind.

I generally don't ignore people until I have nothing left to say to them. But yes, people (myself included) typically find it insulting when you assume bad faith of them. If this was truly your intention, then it is not just my fault for "wishing" to take it as insulting. Your tone has an impact on how others perceive you.

To be blunt, if you are rude on purpose and proceed not to care about how it makes others feel, that behavior isn't welcome here. I can understand if you felt frustrated that I didn't define my acronyms, but that's no reason to lash out about it, even when it's in the form of mere patronizing remarks.

You have a good day too.

Re: Lindroid

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Post by kotaKat »

phh wrote: post #64
kotaKat wrote: post #41

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As far as I also understand Google Messages now uses this as well to gatekeep access to carrier RCS. https://www.theverge.com/2024/3/1/24087418/google-messages-b...

How do you know it's carrier RCS? To the best of my knowledge they are only gatekeeping access to Google Messages private network, not carrier RCS? (Considering the very little number of carrier RCS that's not very relevant though)

All US carriers are now using Google's hosted Jive RCS infrastructure which means "Google Messages".

Re: Lindroid

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Post by timonoko »

Y_Y wrote: post #25
figmert wrote: post #8

I'm currently in the process of trying to see if Samsung DeX is able to replace my laptop. It is running directly on Termux, as opposed to using something like proot. So far it seems promising, and the biggest thing issue I have is that the Termux-X11 session essentially acts like a VM in that shortcuts are not seemless. I'd love to know how this compares to that. Or maybe there's a way to make that more seemless. E.…

Emacs-termux is awkward to get working initially, but it gives you more-or-less full emacs as an Android app, but sharing storage/namespace with termux so that they both have access to the same binaries and documents. There isn't a good project page, it's based at this sourceforgw page and has a surprisingly comprehensive readme. https://sourceforge.net/projects/android-ports-for-gnu-emacs...

Essential part of termux- .emacs, enabling touchscreen:

    (xterm-mouse-mode 1)
    (global-set-key (kbd "") 'scroll-up-command)
    (global-set-key (kbd "") 'scroll-down-command)

Re: Lindroid

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Post by Y_Y »

timonoko wrote: post #89
Y_Y wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Emacs-termux is awkward to get working initially, but it gives you more-or-less full emacs as an Android app, but sharing storage/namespace with termux so that they both have access to the same binaries and documents. There isn't a good project page, it's based at this sourceforgw page and has a surprisingly comprehensive readme. https://sourceforge.net/projects/android-ports-for-gnu-emacs...

Essential part of termux- .emacs, enabling touchscreen: (xterm-mouse-mode 1) (global-set-key (kbd " ") 'scroll-up-command) (global-set-key (kbd " ") 'scroll-down-command)

I think this is for running emacs as a TUI within the termux terminal. The package I linked runs graphical emacs and just shares a filesystem with termux (to allow you to install git etc.). YMMV, but touchscreen should work out-of-the-box
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