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Apple to 'pay' OpenAI for ChatGPT through distribution, not cash

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Re: Apple to 'pay' OpenAI for ChatGPT through distribution, not cash

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Post by Engineering-MD »

dangus wrote: post #78
nextworddev wrote: post #75

I wrote in "Apple Strategy in a Nutshell"[1] that this deal is awful for OpenAI. Not getting paid obviously makes it worse for them, and more favorable for Apple. [1] https://nextword.substack.com/p/apples-ai-strategy-in-a-nuts...

I think that what OpenAI is getting in return is their brand name being featured prominently in one of the top selling smartphone brands in the world. The other wildcard here is that OpenAI will likely exit in some way, most likely by acquisition. Who knows, maybe Apple would buy them. If I were to defend OpenAI's decision to work with Apple, I would say that Apple's ability to do gap analysis won't necessarily help…

I don’t think OpenAI company structure would allow an acquisition per se, although how much they bend the rules (such as with Microsoft) has not been tested

Re: Apple to 'pay' OpenAI for ChatGPT through distribution, not cash

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Post by infecto »

aurareturn wrote: post #54
infecto wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why even list Chinese vendors? Those would never happen in a western market.

iPhones sell in Chinese markets. And more china friendly countries will likely get access.

Right but this initial release is in English.

Re: Apple to 'pay' OpenAI for ChatGPT through distribution, not cash

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Post by infecto »

tivert wrote: post #58
infecto wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why even list Chinese vendors? Those would never happen in a western market.

> Why even list Chinese vendors? Those would never happen in a western market. Because the Western vendors are banned in China, and Apple sells a lot of iPhones in China. And even in a Western market, you might have Chinese immigrants choosing the Chinese vendor. That's probably not enough to justify the integration in and of itself, but if you already have to do it for the Chinese market, why not offer it in the Wes…

For sure but I am talking about this initial release which is in English.

Re: Apple to 'pay' OpenAI for ChatGPT through distribution, not cash

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Post by cassianoleal »

fckgw wrote: post #67
cassianoleal wrote: post #59

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> As a result of the company's partnership with OpenAI, Apple Intelligence includes an integration with ChatGPT, allowing Siri to determine when to send certain complex user requests to ChatGPT. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_Intelligence

OpenAI does not power Apple Intelligence. Apple Intelligence will pass of queries to OpenAI (with explicit user permission) in certain circumstances where it feels OpenAI would have a better answer.

> OpenAI does not power Apple Intelligence.

This is a strawman. No one on this thread said it does.

That said, it does - even if only partially, even if only with explicit permission, even if only in certain circumstances.

Re: Apple to 'pay' OpenAI for ChatGPT through distribution, not cash

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Post by talldayo »

fckgw wrote: post #67
cassianoleal wrote: post #59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> As a result of the company's partnership with OpenAI, Apple Intelligence includes an integration with ChatGPT, allowing Siri to determine when to send certain complex user requests to ChatGPT. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_Intelligence

OpenAI does not power Apple Intelligence. Apple Intelligence will pass of queries to OpenAI (with explicit user permission) in certain circumstances where it feels OpenAI would have a better answer.

Acceptance is the first step in grieving the loss of a beloved business.

Re: Apple to 'pay' OpenAI for ChatGPT through distribution, not cash

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Post by talldayo »

nextworddev wrote: post #75

I wrote in "Apple Strategy in a Nutshell"[1] that this deal is awful for OpenAI. Not getting paid obviously makes it worse for them, and more favorable for Apple. [1] https://nextword.substack.com/p/apples-ai-strategy-in-a-nuts...

It's so bizarrely awful for OpenAI that you almost start to wonder what the auxiliary value of a few million iPhone user's data is.

But as Scarlett Johansson taught us; OpenAI will always ask first. And then they will do whatever they want anyways, regardless of what you respond with.

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