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Popular Mac app 'Bartender' acquired by new unknown developer

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Re: Popular Mac app 'Bartender' acquired by new unknown developer

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Post by flanbiscuit »

cloudrkt wrote: post #61
fifafu wrote: post #19

In case you are already using my BetterTouchTool app: I have created a little tutorial & example preset here on how to use it for status item management: https://community.folivora.ai/t/bartender-controversy-tutori... You can add feature requests there, it should be pretty simple to extend BTT to support the remaining required features. I have also recently been approached by shady companies trying to buy my app (I'd…

I found an old Leap Motion device in a storage box with USB devices last week. The support you provided for it was great and had me waving at my desk all day. Even though the Leap Motion is now unsupported, I still enjoy using BTT daily.

oh that's cool. I have the original (first version) of the Leap Motion in a box somewhere. Now I want to pull it out and install BTT and see what I can do with it.

Re: Popular Mac app 'Bartender' acquired by new unknown developer

#82

Post by orhmeh09 »

banish-m4 wrote: post #50
orhmeh09 wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Evernote worked reliably and well for me across Windows, Linux, and macOS when I was at school in the early 2010s. It had a great web clipper and it was good at handling PDFs and images. Apple Notes could not replicate that. While I pay for Obsidian nowadays, I find it nowhere near as usable as my Evernote setup at that time.

I gave up on Evernote around 2009 when they lost notes, corrupted them, and formatting was highly-inconsistent. Neither the Blackberry nor the iOS apps were entirely usable at that time. Maybe it improved after that, but it was just too slow, limited, risky, and untrustworthy.

It's certainly possible that I got lucky to avoid the numerous data loss incidents and my use cases went along the happy path. I gave it up around 2013 due to privacy concerns.

Re: Popular Mac app 'Bartender' acquired by new unknown developer

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Post by dpedu »

wlesieutre wrote: post #26
hbn wrote: post #14

Apple really needs to just build this functionality into macOS already. You shouldn't need to pay someone else to shove icons into a drawer. And on the new MacBooks with a notch through the center of the menu bar, it always seems like the icons on the right and the menus for the focused app on the left are ever encroaching towards that space.

Especially for people using larger sizes for accessibility, the insufficient menubar space is a silly problem that's been around for years and they've recently made much worse by adding the notch and expanding the spacing between menuextras. It's usually OK if you're in an application that only has File, Edit, View, Window, Help, but once you get into real productivity software you're going to have menu items overflo…

Eh. I like that this discourages usage of tray icons, which is a good thing. Your app doesn't need a tray icon, almost all apps don't. I remember back on windows xp, it felt like every darn app needed its own tray icon for some reason. To be fair, windows xp did have the ability to hide and show certain icons built-in.

Re: Popular Mac app 'Bartender' acquired by new unknown developer

#85

Post by fifafu »

flanbiscuit wrote: post #81
cloudrkt wrote: post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I found an old Leap Motion device in a storage box with USB devices last week. The support you provided for it was great and had me waving at my desk all day. Even though the Leap Motion is now unsupported, I still enjoy using BTT daily.

oh that's cool. I have the original (first version) of the Leap Motion in a box somewhere. Now I want to pull it out and install BTT and see what I can do with it.

unfortunately I removed Leap Motion support a few years ago ;-(

Re: Popular Mac app 'Bartender' acquired by new unknown developer

#86

Post by chuckadams »

fifafu wrote: post #19

In case you are already using my BetterTouchTool app: I have created a little tutorial & example preset here on how to use it for status item management: https://community.folivora.ai/t/bartender-controversy-tutori... You can add feature requests there, it should be pretty simple to extend BTT to support the remaining required features. I have also recently been approached by shady companies trying to buy my app (I'd…

That hides icons to the left of BTT, but BTT is already my leftmost icon. Do I need to change the startup order or something? Currently using HiddenBar which works great, but if I can use fewer apps, so much the better.

And thanks for BTT! It's in my "must-have" apps for any Mac along with Karabiner Elements.

Re: Popular Mac app 'Bartender' acquired by new unknown developer

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Post by fifafu »

chuckadams wrote: post #86
fifafu wrote: post #19

In case you are already using my BetterTouchTool app: I have created a little tutorial & example preset here on how to use it for status item management: https://community.folivora.ai/t/bartender-controversy-tutori... You can add feature requests there, it should be pretty simple to extend BTT to support the remaining required features. I have also recently been approached by shady companies trying to buy my app (I'd…

That hides icons to the left of BTT, but BTT is already my leftmost icon. Do I need to change the startup order or something? Currently using HiddenBar which works great, but if I can use fewer apps, so much the better. And thanks for BTT! It's in my "must-have" apps for any Mac along with Karabiner Elements.

you can reorder the status bar icons by holding cmd & dragging

Re: Popular Mac app 'Bartender' acquired by new unknown developer

#88

Post by Terretta »

bloopernova wrote: post #31

Sort of related question: is it possible to display the date in the macOS menu bar in the format 2024-06-05 10:18

This used to be straightforward if you found your way into the internationalization formats and modified the right ones.

It's no longer straightforward, see:

https://apple.stackexchange.com/questions/463901/customising...

Which in turn points to:

https://discussions.apple.com/thread/254316210?sortBy=best

Re: Popular Mac app 'Bartender' acquired by new unknown developer

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Post by Kovah »

nazgu1 wrote: post #7

What looks odd to me is this silence about acquisition. I've got a lot of emails and read enough blog posts from developers that brags about new owners and new opportunities that goes with it. Bartender is just utility app, but has permissions to e.g screen recording, so new version from new developer without prior explanation just seems shady

Reminds me of the silent takeover of the Stylish browser extension that was sold to some analytics company and then reported your complete browsing history to said company. No information to the users until someone noticed what what going on.

Similar things seemed to have happened to the ModHeader extension, newer versions now inject ads.

Re: Popular Mac app 'Bartender' acquired by new unknown developer

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Post by wlesieutre »

dpedu wrote: post #84
wlesieutre wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Especially for people using larger sizes for accessibility, the insufficient menubar space is a silly problem that's been around for years and they've recently made much worse by adding the notch and expanding the spacing between menuextras. It's usually OK if you're in an application that only has File, Edit, View, Window, Help, but once you get into real productivity software you're going to have menu items overflo…

Eh. I like that this discourages usage of tray icons, which is a good thing. Your app doesn't need a tray icon, almost all apps don't. I remember back on windows xp, it felt like every darn app needed its own tray icon for some reason. To be fair, windows xp did have the ability to hide and show certain icons built-in.

> I like that this discourages usage of tray icons, which is a good thing. Your app doesn't need a tray icon, almost all apps don't

Well clearly that's not working because every app has a tray icon.

It's time to catch up with Windows XP and let users control which ones are important and which ones get hidden. And the hidden ones should still be accessible.

Bartender really nailed all that and it's sad that a 3rd party has to come in and fix this.

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