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Re: Nintendo leak:employee accessing private YouTube videos

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Post by randomdata »

ImPostingOnHN wrote: post #77
randomdata wrote: post #76

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I am describing the expectation Yes, the expectation is that Google, and therefore its agents, are trustworthy. You would not give them your information otherwise. Who happens to working at Google at some moment in time is irrelevant. You have chosen to entrust an entity with a revolving door of individuals. Absolutely no expectation of who will access the information is defined, fundamentally. If that is important…

> Yes, the expectation is that Google can be trusted. That is your expectation, not the expectation. 2 people have told you what the expectation is. You, 1 person, have shared that you have a different expectation. This is okay, but you aren't speaking for us, or for the majority here, only yourself.* The expectation is the one that we have cited, nothing less. It's great if they meet your expectations, but that's no…

No witnessing of a a person telling anything of the sort has occurred. Software has made a suggestion of that nature. Let me ask, software, how has this confusing software as a person managed to occur?

Furthermore, getting back to the topic at hand, expectations in an exchange cannot be defined by an individual. They must be defined and agreed upon by all acting entities. Google has made its end of the exchange clear with no evidence of wavering just for Nintendo, implying that Nintendo shared in the standard list of expectations.

Re: Nintendo leak:employee accessing private YouTube videos

#82

Post by ImPostingOnHN »

randomdata wrote: post #81
ImPostingOnHN wrote: post #77

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Yes, the expectation is that Google can be trusted. That is your expectation, not the expectation. 2 people have told you what the expectation is. You, 1 person, have shared that you have a different expectation. This is okay, but you aren't speaking for us, or for the majority here, only yourself.* The expectation is the one that we have cited, nothing less. It's great if they meet your expectations, but that's no…

No witnessing of a a person telling anything of the sort has occurred. Software has made a suggestion of that nature. Let me ask, software, how has this confusing software as a person managed to occur? Furthermore, getting back to the topic at hand, expectations in an exchange cannot be defined by an individual. They must be defined and agreed upon by all acting entities. Google has made its end of the exchange clear…

> No witnessing of a a person telling anything of the sort has occurred. Software has made a suggestion of that nature. Let me ask, software, how has this confusing software as a person managed to occur?

It's unclear, but you appear to be accusing myself and at least 1 other poster of being "software", presumably some sort of insult about how our posts are somehow similar to chatgpt output?

I think now is a good time for me to disengage.

Re: Nintendo leak:employee accessing private YouTube videos

#83

Post by finnthehuman »

duped wrote: post #48
erremerre wrote: post #40

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My favourite are the one that leaked a tank data on a discord just to prove that they were right.

The number of state secrets protected by a 20 year old E-4 whose only motivation is to not get chewed out (and/or jail) is probably staggering.

https://knowyourmeme.com/photos/2651728-war-thunder-military...

Re: Nintendo leak:employee accessing private YouTube videos

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Post by randomdata »

ImPostingOnHN wrote: post #82
randomdata wrote: post #81

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No witnessing of a a person telling anything of the sort has occurred. Software has made a suggestion of that nature. Let me ask, software, how has this confusing software as a person managed to occur? Furthermore, getting back to the topic at hand, expectations in an exchange cannot be defined by an individual. They must be defined and agreed upon by all acting entities. Google has made its end of the exchange clear…

> No witnessing of a a person telling anything of the sort has occurred. Software has made a suggestion of that nature. Let me ask, software, how has this confusing software as a person managed to occur? It's unclear, but you appear to be accusing myself and at least 1 other poster of being "software", presumably some sort of insult about how our posts are somehow similar to chatgpt output? I think now is a good time…

I questioned where there idea that there are people on an Internet forum comes from. I don't see any people, only the output of software.

There was nothing about the quality of that output or an attempt to insult the software. By what mechanism could software even be insulted?

Re: Nintendo leak:employee accessing private YouTube videos

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Post by mrguyorama »

vel0city wrote: post #78
mrguyorama wrote: post #47

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Kids are literally dying in Tyson affiliated chicken plants down south and nobody is going to prison. Why WOULDN'T youtube use child labor if it's cheaper?

Are you arguing we should just assume every single employer uses child labor because some places use child labor? I take it you're also arguing Y Combinator also uses child labor? Mozilla? Spotify? Your employer? I mean, why WOULDN'T they? I imagine you probably probably hire child labor as well. After all, why WOULDN'T you? Its probably child labor that keeps this site running. After all, why WOULDN'T they hire kids…

https://www.dol.gov/newsroom/releases/whd/whd20230206-2

Violating labor laws with children is actually really common, and plenty of places DO abuse young labor. It is NOT avoided

Do you think all the workers in your company's call center in some random country are all truthfully 18? Hell, do you think none of them are working against their will?

Re: Nintendo leak:employee accessing private YouTube videos

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Post by wolpoli »

reza_1999 wrote: post #51
montebicyclelo wrote: post #38

Related side note: I've always had a suspicion that one of the ideas I was working on using Google Colab was viewed by an employee and leaked, because someone wrote a blog post with the exact same idea (very niche) before I got round to releasing mine (I ended up not bothering due to being gazumped), and a Google Colab employee tweeted that blog post. (Puts on tin foil hat.. I stopped using Colab after that.)

They bluntly say their notebook product is not private https://www.reddit.com/r/google/comments/1d7g3tu/notebooklm_... even for non-AI generated stuff like your notes and uploads.

While it says that your personal data may be seen by human reviewers to troubleshoot, address abused or make improvement based on your feedback, it does not mention that your data will be used to generate ideas for blog posts.

Re: Nintendo leak:employee accessing private YouTube videos

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Post by vel0city »

mrguyorama wrote: post #85
vel0city wrote: post #78

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Are you arguing we should just assume every single employer uses child labor because some places use child labor? I take it you're also arguing Y Combinator also uses child labor? Mozilla? Spotify? Your employer? I mean, why WOULDN'T they? I imagine you probably probably hire child labor as well. After all, why WOULDN'T you? Its probably child labor that keeps this site running. After all, why WOULDN'T they hire kids…

https://www.dol.gov/newsroom/releases/whd/whd20230206-2 Violating labor laws with children is actually really common, and plenty of places DO abuse young labor. It is NOT avoided Do you think all the workers in your company's call center in some random country are all truthfully 18? Hell, do you think none of them are working against their will?

Some places hiring child labor != all places hiring child labor.

I do agree there's too much illegal child labor going on in the US and around the world, but its a stretch to assume everyone hires child labor.

Otherwise, why won't you stop hiring child labor? You've probably hired someone to do some kind of work around your home at least once, I take it you most definitely hired children then. After all, apparently everyone does it.

Why WOULDN'T mrguyorama hire child labor to do the plumbing around his home or to do his lawn work?!

Re: Nintendo leak:employee accessing private YouTube videos

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Post by pixl97 »

beeboobaa3 wrote: post #80
pixl97 wrote: post #14

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Yes, this is typically how moderation works on any platform. Unless it is encrypted it's not "private".

No, it's not. Typically moderators can view content that needs moderation, i.e. is visible to other users. There is no reason to give them access to all private videos, which are different from unlisted.

Yes it is. You can keep saying "no it's not" until the cows come home, but every single bit of unencrypted content (and possibly well known hashes of encrypted content) is subject to moderation on any large corporate property.

Re: Nintendo leak:employee accessing private YouTube videos

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Post by b3lvedere »

vel0city wrote: post #78
mrguyorama wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Kids are literally dying in Tyson affiliated chicken plants down south and nobody is going to prison. Why WOULDN'T youtube use child labor if it's cheaper?

Are you arguing we should just assume every single employer uses child labor because some places use child labor? I take it you're also arguing Y Combinator also uses child labor? Mozilla? Spotify? Your employer? I mean, why WOULDN'T they? I imagine you probably probably hire child labor as well. After all, why WOULDN'T you? Its probably child labor that keeps this site running. After all, why WOULDN'T they hire kids…

When companies can get away with it (read: they abide by all laws) why would they not? It is cheaper and money is prime directive number one. Do you actually think companies make money and have a finely tuned moral compass at the same time?

I made the parent comment exactly for this discussion. Do not assume corporations have a moral compass. They do not care and will outsource each and everything if that is cheaper than handling stuff themselves.Why is it chaeaper to pay some people to get the law on your side than actually start doing normal human moral behaviour? Why can they actually outsource responsibility at all? Strange planet we live on.

Re: Nintendo leak:employee accessing private YouTube videos

#90

Post by mrguyorama »

vel0city wrote: post #87
mrguyorama wrote: post #85

Earlier quoted context omitted.

https://www.dol.gov/newsroom/releases/whd/whd20230206-2 Violating labor laws with children is actually really common, and plenty of places DO abuse young labor. It is NOT avoided Do you think all the workers in your company's call center in some random country are all truthfully 18? Hell, do you think none of them are working against their will?

Some places hiring child labor != all places hiring child labor. I do agree there's too much illegal child labor going on in the US and around the world, but its a stretch to assume everyone hires child labor. Otherwise, why won't you stop hiring child labor? You've probably hired someone to do some kind of work around your home at least once, I take it you most definitely hired children then. After all, apparently e…

>Why WOULDN'T mrguyorama hire child labor to do the plumbing around his home or to do his lawn work?!

If I had a lawn and a neighborhood with young children who were bored during the summer, I WOULD hire a child to mow it, and in fact I am hiring a child (girlfriend's younger brother) to watch our cat during a vacation!

Before child labor was significantly stamped out through aggressive labor laws, average people hired child labor all the time. Little timmy was out selling papers, little stephanie selling flowers, Paul was cleaning the chimney, and every other kid was working in the coal mine or textile mill, for absurdly low wages (even for the time!), with absurdly high injury rates, for 12 hour days.

Child labor was HUGE, and if we don't aggressively stamp it out, it WILL creep back into what we largely consider normal. Southern US states are already trying to push laws onto the books that weaken the laws against child labor.

I don't know how to make this more clear: If Youtube could get away with hiring 10k literal children and pay them peanuts to do all the moderation work, they would, conscience and honor and ethics be damned, like they always are.

I mean christ, look at Roblox!

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