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Re: macOS Bartender Auto-Update Signed by Unknown New Owner

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Post by nicky0 »

garyrob wrote: post #67

Given the proximity of this development to WWDC, it seems like there's a chance Apple has acquired Bartender and has incorporated its functionality into the next MacOS release.

If Apple wanted to implement a simlar feature, they would just do it. They wouldn't buy a 3rd party app when they could just do it themselves.

The value proposition of these kind of third party UI apps is that the developer cleverly figured out how to manipulate Apple's APIs to do something Apple didn't really intend. Apple themselves can just write their own private API to do it, they don't need the clever hacks.

Re: macOS Bartender Auto-Update Signed by Unknown New Owner

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Post by dewey »

mmaniac wrote: post #80

Mac OS has a serious problem with requiring loads of third party extensions to get a usable desktop experience. Most of the time it's merely annoying, but this situation also demonstrates that you're placing a lot of trust in the authors of these programs.

Nobody “requires” these tools to have a “usable” experience. Millions of people are using it just fine without all these tweaks.

Re: macOS Bartender Auto-Update Signed by Unknown New Owner

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Post by BoardsOfCanada »

mmaniac wrote: post #80

Mac OS has a serious problem with requiring loads of third party extensions to get a usable desktop experience. Most of the time it's merely annoying, but this situation also demonstrates that you're placing a lot of trust in the authors of these programs.

Does it really? For me, finder is below the level of what's acceptable, so I use a replacement. I also use magnet for arranging windows, but apart from that I find the experience far better than windows or linux. Maybe I'm missing out on some really great extensions, which ones would you recommend?

Re: macOS Bartender Auto-Update Signed by Unknown New Owner

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Post by cloogshicer »

fifafu wrote: post #76

In case you are already using my BetterTouchTool app I have created a little tutorial & example preset here on how to use it for status item management: https://community.folivora.ai/t/bartender-controversy-tutori... You can add feature requests there, it should be pretty simple to extend BTT to support the remaining required features.

Man, I love BTT. I've been using it for many years, it's fantastic!

Something that I'd love to have is an easy way to show menu items that aren't visible because there's not enough space in the menu bar. I often have to switch to a different app with fewer text items in the menu bar like Finder, which only has File, Edit, etc., just so I can reach menu bar items that would be otherwise hidden.

Re: macOS Bartender Auto-Update Signed by Unknown New Owner

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Post by hu3 »

BoardsOfCanada wrote: post #83
mmaniac wrote: post #80

Mac OS has a serious problem with requiring loads of third party extensions to get a usable desktop experience. Most of the time it's merely annoying, but this situation also demonstrates that you're placing a lot of trust in the authors of these programs.

Does it really? For me, finder is below the level of what's acceptable, so I use a replacement. I also use magnet for arranging windows, but apart from that I find the experience far better than windows or linux. Maybe I'm missing out on some really great extensions, which ones would you recommend?

> Does it really

Yes. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40580566

Re: macOS Bartender Auto-Update Signed by Unknown New Owner

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Post by yodon »

nymiro wrote: post #68

This rendered Hidden Bar and Bartender obsolete for me, just reduce icons padding. You can still complement with Hidden Bar. I wish I had written down the original author to give credit: ``` defaults -currentHost write -globalDomain NSStatusItemSelectionPadding -int 6 defaults -currentHost write -globalDomain NSStatusItemSpacing -int 6 ##After running these commands, you need to log out and log back in ```

What do the commands do experientially?

Re: macOS Bartender Auto-Update Signed by Unknown New Owner

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Post by yodon »

somehnguy wrote: post #12
SamuelAdams wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There are so many small apps that really ought to be part of the OS by now. A few that come to mind: Rectangle, or some sort of default way to control application windows with your keyboard. Mos / UnnaturalScrollWheels: if you use a docking station, you may want natural scrolling when using your laptop as a laptop, and normal scrolling when using a mouse. Windows and Linux both have this solved for 15 years now, I am…

Rectangle user for years, great app. Today I got frustrated enough to find AltTab ( https://alt-tab-macos.netlify.app/ ), huge improvement to my workflow already. Sometimes when cmd+tab'ing between apps it'll bring the selected window to the foreground, and sometimes it won't. They'll regain focus for typing, but are hidden behind another window for whatever reason. Fully open windows too, not minimized or anything.…

+1 for Alt-Tab-MacOS, which lets you have Windows-style alt-tab behavior on Macs.

Finding it was quite literally what enabled me to finally move from Windows to Mac.

Re: macOS Bartender Auto-Update Signed by Unknown New Owner

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Post by rhinoceraptor »

dewey wrote: post #82
mmaniac wrote: post #80

Mac OS has a serious problem with requiring loads of third party extensions to get a usable desktop experience. Most of the time it's merely annoying, but this situation also demonstrates that you're placing a lot of trust in the authors of these programs.

Nobody “requires” these tools to have a “usable” experience. Millions of people are using it just fine without all these tweaks.

A menu bar manager only becomes necessary when you have a bunch of extra things installed on your system that each have a menu bar item.

Re: macOS Bartender Auto-Update Signed by Unknown New Owner

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Post by BoardsOfCanada »

hu3 wrote: post #85
BoardsOfCanada wrote: post #83

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Does it really? For me, finder is below the level of what's acceptable, so I use a replacement. I also use magnet for arranging windows, but apart from that I find the experience far better than windows or linux. Maybe I'm missing out on some really great extensions, which ones would you recommend?

> Does it really Yes. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40580566

My situation is similar to `dwighttk` in the comments you link to, I have stats (as in `brew home stats`) showing CPU/GPU/RAM/Network, then the standard macOs stuff + magnet + weekday and full date and time and nothing is ever hidden by the notch when using the built in display.

So - since people DO have a problem - there must be other things that a lot of users want to see but none of them are mentioned in the link.

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