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Carpenter's AirTags help uncover 'massive' case of stolen tools in Maryland

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Re: Carpenter's AirTags help uncover 'massive' case of stolen tools in Maryland

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That is a huge inventory. How do stolen tools get fenced? Sent abroad? Craigslist and FB marketplace? I've bought some used tools from online classifieds, but it always seems to be a homeowner or business owner selling one or two things.

Every flea market I have ever been to in my life always has some guy with a huge amount of lightly used and heavily assorted high-dollar power tools. Before Home Depot started putting tools in cages, I used to see a lot of craigslist/marketplace/etc postings for brand new and unopened tools, posted at amazing prices.

Yeah, and then people act like the flea market is some precious cornerstone of the local culture. In my city there is a flea market that has dozens of freshly stolen bikes every week. There's a fund where people buy back the bikes and reunite them with their owners. Unfortunately, there's no fund supporting violence against these bike thieves.

Re: Carpenter's AirTags help uncover 'massive' case of stolen tools in Maryland

#83
post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A common good like security should be socialized because the alternative is multiple independent groups enforcing property rights, and when they start to conflict, you get a civil war won by the person who spent the most on security. The idea that police are inherently corrupt because they developed from paid security forces ignores that the very process of development is what enshrined the rule of law over power.

I don't disagree that security should be a socialized good, it's a good idea. That doesn't change the fact that police in the United States and elsewhere were formed in the basis of law not to protect people but to protect property. Even today courts have ruled that police are under no obligation to protect civilians from direct, inevitable harm. They are not there to protect you, they are there to protect "the peace…

> police in the United States and elsewhere were formed in the basis of law not to protect people but to protect property.

Be as that may (and as shitty as that is), this thread is about police forces utterly failing to protect property (or even attempt to).

Re: Carpenter's AirTags help uncover 'massive' case of stolen tools in Maryland

#84

Off topic, but reminds me of the lost hunting dog whose tracking collar was found in a big gator, along with a lot of other collars. Solved a long running ‘lost hunting dog’ mystery. https://www.spokesman.com/stories/1995/aug/29/dogs-tracked-d...

Totally on topic.

Re: Carpenter's AirTags help uncover 'massive' case of stolen tools in Maryland

#85
post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A common good like security should be socialized because the alternative is multiple independent groups enforcing property rights, and when they start to conflict, you get a civil war won by the person who spent the most on security. The idea that police are inherently corrupt because they developed from paid security forces ignores that the very process of development is what enshrined the rule of law over power.

I don't disagree that security should be a socialized good, it's a good idea. That doesn't change the fact that police in the United States and elsewhere were formed in the basis of law not to protect people but to protect property. Even today courts have ruled that police are under no obligation to protect civilians from direct, inevitable harm. They are not there to protect you, they are there to protect "the peace…

> Even today courts have ruled that police are under no obligation to protect civilians

Yeah, LAPD's "protect and serve" was dreamed up by the City's marketing arm in the 1950s.

And those rulings have come because PDs have stood up and said "We have no obligation to prevent crime or protect people" and the courts have said, "Yup, you're right."

Re: Carpenter's AirTags help uncover 'massive' case of stolen tools in Maryland

#86

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't disagree that security should be a socialized good, it's a good idea. That doesn't change the fact that police in the United States and elsewhere were formed in the basis of law not to protect people but to protect property. Even today courts have ruled that police are under no obligation to protect civilians from direct, inevitable harm. They are not there to protect you, they are there to protect "the peace…

> police in the United States and elsewhere were formed in the basis of law not to protect people but to protect property. Be as that may (and as shitty as that is), this thread is about police forces utterly failing to protect property (or even attempt to).

Well right, my point is the damaged party is in the wrong class. That's why it's not being resolved.

Re: Carpenter's AirTags help uncover 'massive' case of stolen tools in Maryland

#87
post #61
post #46

In the video that shows the stolen tools in the warehouse, there are hardly any Ryobi tools (HomeDepot's cheap tool brand). This is in stark contrast to many of the recent woodworking videos on Youtube that feature craftspeople using Ryobi tools (without explicitly mentioning an HD sponsorship). The thieves know a good tool, and HD is trying to fool the rest of us that their Ryobi tools are any good.

What is the brand with the best reputation these days?

Milwaukee seems to have a strong reputation. in Europe, mafell too.

Re: Carpenter's AirTags help uncover 'massive' case of stolen tools in Maryland

#88

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That seems like the mostly likely way, at least for the new items stolen from retail. Trying to sell on craiglist/FB marketplace doesn't seem like it would scale. An unscrupulous hardware store owner could mix the stolen goods in with their stock to pad their margins. The tools could also be used as stock for 3rd party seller on Amazon.

Amazon comingled inventory would be the perfect vehicle for the perfect crime. They can’t even tell who shipped what, it’s basically like a cryptocurrency tumbler but for real world goods!

In fact it already is, lots of stuff is stolen and sold this way.

Re: Carpenter's AirTags help uncover 'massive' case of stolen tools in Maryland

#89
post #69

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There is an amount of theft that apple is OK with because preventing it would hurt sales and occasional theift of product they can easily brick is certainly under that limit, plus there is likelyreporting biases, as it's likely you've seen videos of it happening but when there are arrests or recoverys you havn't seen those reports.

This is a regressive and defeatist attitude. We actually don't have to tolerate this in a society- those engaging in it should be punished and forcibly removed if they aren't able to change.

Evidence has shown that punitive penalties for crime do not affect crime rates.

Re: Carpenter's AirTags help uncover 'massive' case of stolen tools in Maryland

#90
post #61
post #46

In the video that shows the stolen tools in the warehouse, there are hardly any Ryobi tools (HomeDepot's cheap tool brand). This is in stark contrast to many of the recent woodworking videos on Youtube that feature craftspeople using Ryobi tools (without explicitly mentioning an HD sponsorship). The thieves know a good tool, and HD is trying to fool the rest of us that their Ryobi tools are any good.

What is the brand with the best reputation these days?

Pick the color you like best of the reputable manufactures.
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