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Stop Using Discord

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Re: Stop Using Discord

#81
post #58

Use a matrix bridge to discord instead. Jokes aside the discord ux is good enough for the average user, it already has chokehold on its users and there is no equivalent. I would also prefer things to be easily searchable, archivable etc but consumers consume.

> there is no equivalent.

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Re: Stop Using Discord

#82
post #58

Use a matrix bridge to discord instead. Jokes aside the discord ux is good enough for the average user, it already has chokehold on its users and there is no equivalent. I would also prefer things to be easily searchable, archivable etc but consumers consume.

Point is, if you are using it as a tool to reach out to your community it's mostly okay, but if you are doing support or documentation up there you should really really think twice.

In this instance: Amiga 600 Discord where we post pics of our cool Amigas good, Amiga maintenance and schematics hidden in God knows which channel on God knows which Amiga Discord server bad.

Best of both worlds: if someone asks question on a Discord and you know the answer, write a blog post (or whatever, as long as it is on the open Web) and link it back! You are guaranteed to have at least 1 readerr which is wildly above the average blog post lol

Re: Stop Using Discord

#83
post #74
post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is the key part here. There's nothing wrong with using Discord to chat about random stuff. If you're talking to your friends about your latest night out or playing online games with a community, then Discord is fine. The issue is how some communities use it as a wiki, documentation and forum replacement for information that should be available on the public internet. This is a huge problem for speedrunning and m…

This is untrue. Talking to friends in DM on non-e2ee platforms normalizes ubiquitous surveillance of friendship interactions and makes all of society worse. Don’t be reachable on non-e2ee DM systems. Delete your account.

Fair point. I guess a better explanation would be "don't use messaging apps for publicly accessible content, regardless of if the system is open source, federated or e2ee". The same general issue would apply if these communities used Matrix or Signal or Telegram or WhatsApp or whatever else.

Re: Stop Using Discord

#84

Ultimately someone has to pay for things. Many communities have apparently decided they don't want to use even modern forum software and become a webmaster, along with avoiding the costs and time associated, or use someone else's existing forum (which may or may not suit their needs). The quite liberal free file attachment limits (25MB each), ease of communication and ironically the fact Discord is closed off in natu…

matrix.org allows 100 mb attachment. It is federated, which means you can move your data to your server if you like later. There are many clients and server implementations now and it is e2ee.

Re: Stop Using Discord

#85
post #26

I don't like Discord as much as the next person, but people use Discord because it's convenient. Why do people prefer Discord to IRC when the latter is free, open source, and indexable?

Features. Is there any other tool that offers persistant text, voice, and video chats plus screen sharing?

I've gone looking and there is simply no alternative with core feature parity.

Re: Stop Using Discord

#86
post #62
post #25

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I don’t get the love for discourse. I’m not one of those “every webpage should work without JS” purists, but Discourse seems intent to reinvent basic web features with JS and has some performance issues and as a consequence of both often (maybe when hitting something not in cache?) takes ages to load during which time you get nothing but a poorly-styled loading throbber, you can’t even read the content as it loads in…

I wonder if there's anything wrong on your end. Clicked on your link, searched for a topic with lots of replies and the content loaded instantly. Then I proceeded to spam-click on topics and still everything loaded instantly... MacBook M3 Pro with Firefox.

Measure the initial load time, subsequent loads are indeed faster

And to test many replies you actually have to see them since they're not loaded on page load, only when you get to the bottom of that page, so just opening the top doesn't test anything re. lots of replies

Re: Stop Using Discord

#87
post #62
post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don’t get the love for discourse. I’m not one of those “every webpage should work without JS” purists, but Discourse seems intent to reinvent basic web features with JS and has some performance issues and as a consequence of both often (maybe when hitting something not in cache?) takes ages to load during which time you get nothing but a poorly-styled loading throbber, you can’t even read the content as it loads in…

I wonder if there's anything wrong on your end. Clicked on your link, searched for a topic with lots of replies and the content loaded instantly. Then I proceeded to spam-click on topics and still everything loaded instantly... MacBook M3 Pro with Firefox.

I think it’s a server side cache thing. I was loading a specific old topic on that instance and it took very long to load, but once loaded in the first time refreshes were decently fast (even in private windows). I’ve observed the same behaviour on the Figma forums, which are also discourse.

Re: Stop Using Discord

#88
post #58

Use a matrix bridge to discord instead. Jokes aside the discord ux is good enough for the average user, it already has chokehold on its users and there is no equivalent. I would also prefer things to be easily searchable, archivable etc but consumers consume.

> it already has chokehold on its users and there is no equivalent.

There are plenty of equivalents - Slack, Microsoft Teams etc offer the same IRC + persistent messages + searchable + persistent user accounts & admin + multi-device + image sharing + file sharing + spam protection product.

They're just even worse, by most of the metrics that make people hate discord.

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