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After Furiosa flops, Hollywood could be facing a biblically disastrous summer

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Re: After Furiosa flops, Hollywood could be facing a biblically disastrous summer

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Post by insickness »

ameister14 wrote: post #34

There are a lot of reasons for this, but for me, a big thing is how absurdly long movies are now. I look at movies and at this point will reject some that just feel like they will take too much time. I saw Furiosa, it was fine, but it was about a half an hour longer than it should have been. It's 148 minutes long. For comparison, Mad Max was 93 minutes long, The Road Warrior was 96 minutes long, Beyond Thunderdome wa…

That's why I didn't see Dune 2 in the theaters. No way I can sit for three hours straight. It's just not fun after two hours.

Re: After Furiosa flops, Hollywood could be facing a biblically disastrous summer

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Post by vundercind »

gyudin wrote: post #70
slibhb wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is Furiosa a cash grab? I haven't seen it yet but Fury Road was anything but.

It’s a watchable warmup before rewatching the previous one :) and that one still looks fucking epic. Personally I think Chris Hemsworth was a big miscast and just plain boring and weird. If they would get somebody like Rob Zombie it could’ve been much more fun and menacing xD. Otherwise it just doesn’t take you on an emotional journey. They tried to cramp as many story lines as possible, but it just has diluted the w…

> Personally I think Chris Hemsworth was a big miscast and just plain boring and weird

Huh, I’d call out his performance as one of the best elements of the movie (which I also liked a lot overall, this isn’t a backhanded compliment)

[edit] this though:

> They didn’t use any dynamic and rememberable soundtracks.

Yeah, it bucks some stupid and bad Hollywood trends (you can see what’s happening in night scenes! You can understand the dialog!) but does follow the nigh-universal trend of having a boring soundtrack that zero people are humming on their way out of the theater. I wouldn’t have guessed I’d be looking back favorably on the original soundtracks of middling 90s movies but here we are.

Re: After Furiosa flops, Hollywood could be facing a biblically disastrous summer

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Post by ZeroGravitas »

vundercind wrote: post #65
autokad wrote: post #2

kind of unfortunate, I heard Furiosa was actually a good movie. though, I personally haven't been to the movies in about 6 years or so.

Prequel? Bad sign. Fleshing out a weird movie world we’ve already visited? Rarely a good idea. See: John Wick. … but it was pretty damn good anyway. I like it more the more I think about it.

Fifth entry in a movie franchise is not generally a sign of quality either.

Nor is being directed by the same guy that made a film about dancing penguins and another about talking pigs.

I'm looking forward to it though.

Re: After Furiosa flops, Hollywood could be facing a biblically disastrous summer

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Post by vundercind »

mr_mitm wrote: post #62
musha68k wrote: post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah this is most likely the wrong movie to blame. Fury Road was IMHO the blockbuster movie of the 2010s. I didn't have time yet but very much looking forward to see what George Miller has cooked up this time around!

Fury Road was certainly not a cash grab, but a prequel to the blockbuster of the 10s except with a female lead definitely smells like a cash grab.

She was the protagonist of the other one too. The Jay Gatsby to Max’s Nick Carraway.

And AFAIK this is built almost entirely off the extensive character background notes developed while writing her for Fury Road, so it’s not like they just cooked up this story because they needed something.

Re: After Furiosa flops, Hollywood could be facing a biblically disastrous summer

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Post by saintkaye »

ksenzee wrote: post #23
saintkaye wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Literally all the numbers say the opposite. There is a ton of ink on the topic, but the core problem is that executives get fired for failures more frequently than they get expanded upside for hits.

“Executives get fired” makes it sound like being fired is a natural consequence of a box office failure. Who is firing the executives in such a way that they incentivize mediocre performance? Maybe they should quit doing that?

This should help:

https://x.com/TheMonologist/status/1795505661591040064

Re: After Furiosa flops, Hollywood could be facing a biblically disastrous summer

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Post by dmix »

mr_mitm wrote: post #62
musha68k wrote: post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah this is most likely the wrong movie to blame. Fury Road was IMHO the blockbuster movie of the 2010s. I didn't have time yet but very much looking forward to see what George Miller has cooked up this time around!

Fury Road was certainly not a cash grab, but a prequel to the blockbuster of the 10s except with a female lead definitely smells like a cash grab.

George Miller wanted to make this story at the same time as Fury Road, right after so it wasn’t a cash grab at time of conception

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Post by falcolas »

jseliger wrote: post #68
darth_avocado wrote: post #19

I’ve seen a lot of explanations for this, but talking to most people my age, there’s only one that’s the real reason: the economics are terrible for watching a movie. The tickets are averaging $20-30 per person around where I live. In 2018, the same movies cost $7-13. Parking and food push the costs even higher. All for a couple of hours of entertainment. I can watch the same movie for $20 when it comes out on DVD. I…

The number of ticket sales has been flat to declining since the '90s: https://www.the-numbers.com/market/ and I've read that the heyday of movies was in the '40s and '50s. The simple answer is likely the quality of TVs: 65" OLED TVs with good sound aren't that expensive any more. The quality delta of going to a theater versus watching something on TV used to be massive.

The only thing a theater really offers anymore is sharing the experience of a movie with other people. Which is definitely a benefit, but is it a $100 night out worth of benefit? Not to me.

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Post by krapp »

Grimeton wrote: post #80

Hollywood is in a decline for years and pushing politics and ideology in each and every movie didn't help either. People are just fed up by this nonsense and don't watch it anymore. A similar thing is (finally) happening in the gaming space, too.

No. Most people don't care. The group that sees "politics and ideology" ruining everything everywhere are an insufferably loud minority.

Which is ironic because minorities are usually what set them off.

Re: After Furiosa flops, Hollywood could be facing a biblically disastrous summer

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Post by mgaunard »

SeanAnderson wrote: post #64
ethbr1 wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As a 21 year old explained to me, "Playing video games is a lot of work."

Eh. It's more like watching sports vs playing sports. They're both enjoyable but entirely distinct categories even though there's overlap in what's occurring.

To be fair, I don't understand watching sports either.
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