"one simple principle: make good products and charge money for them." Thank you for the one-time purchase option. It's a win already on today's software world.
That’s what I said about Halide, before they moved it to a subscription model.
Kino: Pro Video Camera
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#82Unfortunately iOS only.
For RAW recording at least there's MotionCam Pro: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.motioncam....
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#83Earlier quoted context omitted.
Hope you enjoy Kino! To clear up a few things about Halide… The only time Halide communicates with a server is when we do a controlled rollout of a feature, and anonymized reporting when a capture fails. I’d prefer we didn’t need either but 1) the App Store model doesn’t accommodate safe rollouts and 2) iPhone capture and photo library frameworks regularly break, and sometimes the only way to get a fix escalated is t…
The Halide one time purchase is $60, and I carry a full frame mirrorless (rx1) with me at all times. Also, while I understand your QA issue, I won’t spend money on apps that phone home against my will, on basis of principle.
So then it objectively isn't "IAP subscriptionware cancer"..
Re: Kino: Pro Video Camera
#84I'm interested in the benefits of this app for anyone who doesn't have an iPhone 15 Pro that takes video in Apple Log. The post made it seem it seem to me like an iPhone 15 Pro was required.
Yeah, I am quite interested in the app but I would need this cleared up as I have an iPhone 13 Pro.
The ability to record in log is very important. Without log, you're never going to get the results as advertised on the box. You can attempt to grade any footage from any camera with any color grade software, but with a huge amount of limitations. When recording in a format that is not "log", you will have already trashed the majority of data an app like this needs to make those subtle adjustments. In log, the highlights tend to be preserved better as well as details in shadows have not be crushed into oblivion. If your non-log footage is brought in, the same knobs/buttons will be available, but the data it is needing has been lost and it just will not have the same effect. You will not be satisfied with "its abilities" as you are now in the "you're doing it wrong" with your workflow
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#86Earlier quoted context omitted.
Why?
Do other manufactures shoot in the log mode that this is specifically taking advantage of? If not, there's no point of it from any other millions of apple on the Play store.
There are apps for Android that allow you to record RAW video (eg: MotionCam Pro). You'll need an equivalent Android though. A high end Samsung, Sony, OnePlus, etc, supports this. A random $50-100 Android phone probably won't.
Re: Kino: Pro Video Camera
#87Earlier quoted context omitted.
> These folks have a stellar reputation The name they've chosen for the app, Kino, is a bit weird to me. When I hear the word Kino, I immediately start to think about lighting as that's how people refer to lights from Kinoflo which gained popularity from their fluorescent lights in the years before LEDs took over.
I think of the internet "meme" of calling movies you like "Kinography", or saying that a movie you watched was "kino". Example: Movie XYZ is pure kino
I get the use of Kino, and that's why I caveated the statement with "weird to me" immediately followed by the specific reasons it is weird to me. I did not say that it is weird because it has nothing to do with anything. It's just when someone that's been in the production world and familiar with equipment names and brands, Kino definitely has a specific meaning on first hearing it.
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#88As a long time amateur photographer (using physical cameras and lenses), I have Halide (by the same company) on my iOS home screen for when I need to take a real phono on my iPhone. I use it all the time without issue. And would recommend it to any photographer. So I paid for Kino without hesitation. Just fired it up, set BNW grade, pressed record, and it immediately crashed. Tried again and it crashed again. Tried A…
Same phone and same OS version down to the patch number. I’ve noticed UI hangs and stutter when changing the grades, and BNW in particular seems to cause the biggest issues. Not yet experienced a crash even if I flick between grades in quick succession.
I did also find manual focus produced odd green visual artefacts in the live view as you move the focus control.
With that said, it’s a nice UI, hopefully the bugs can be ironed out!
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#89The editorialized title should probably be changed. I get that the original one (“Introducing Kino”) is not descriptive enough, but at the same time “Kino: Pro
Video Camera” is misleading since it's not a camera (let alone a professional one) but a camera app for iPhone.
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#90Looks very cool - but will be curious to see how the results from this end up comparing to Blackmagic's excellent (and free) pro iOS video app ( https://www.blackmagicdesign.com/products/blackmagiccamera )
I don't see a way to grade the footage from within the BMD app. Their app seems more designed to take advantage of the ProRes/log captures intended to be used in Resolve Studio. This app allows you to do the grading on your device. So that's a pretty obvious difference. If you're someone using Resolve, you'll probably be enticed by the BMD app as it fits your existing workflow. If you're someone looking to stay on de…
You can apply a LUT to the capture. They also have a good Davinci Resolve iPad app; maybe they'll make an iPhone version in the future.