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OpenAI didn’t copy Scarlett Johansson’s voice for ChatGPT, records show

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Re: OpenAI didn’t copy Scarlett Johansson’s voice for ChatGPT, records show

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Yes, how dare another woman have a voice that might somewhat sound like Scarlett?

Can’t really fault the voice actor for having a specific voice. The question is whether or not OAI traded on the similarity to Scarlet Js likeness. The “her” tweet raises suspicions.

They asked her. She said no.

Re: OpenAI didn’t copy Scarlett Johansson’s voice for ChatGPT, records show

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I was perusing some Simpsons clips this afternoon and came across a story to the effect of "So and so didn't want to play himself, so Dan Castellaneta did the voice." It's a good impression and people didn't seem very upset about that. I am not sure how this is different. (Apparently this particular "impression" predates the Her character, so it's even easier to not be mad about. It's just a coincidence. They weren't…

Parody is protected in the US. The Simpsons can get away with a lot of stuff because of it

Re: OpenAI didn’t copy Scarlett Johansson’s voice for ChatGPT, records show

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I can't help but think that this was all planned. It is a very intricately planned, and geniously executed marketing ploy to make sure everyone knows about the company, the new release, that there is voice now, and even makes everyone look into it just to "see for themselves". Whether this was in with ScarJo in the loop or not, does not really change the outcome, but would be a nice information we probably will never…

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Re: OpenAI didn’t copy Scarlett Johansson’s voice for ChatGPT, records show

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Then why pull the voice in the first place?

If it goes to court I’m sure discovery will unearth a bunch of emails and slack messages pertaining to this as well as documentation about the make up of their training sets and casting and performance notes for the voice talent. Hopefully they’re under legal hold now.

Re: OpenAI didn’t copy Scarlett Johansson’s voice for ChatGPT, records show

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A sensational lie spread much quicker than the truth even on HN, with no sign of course correction. I hope Sam feels fine after so much baseless harassment.

You are getting confused by an implementation detail. They wanted to copy her voice, and they did it. They asked for permission and she said no. So they went ahead and did it anyway.

The voice actor involved is irrelevant.

Re: OpenAI didn’t copy Scarlett Johansson’s voice for ChatGPT, records show

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't know, to me, it's just sounds like they know how to cover all their bases. To me, it sounds like they had the idea to make their AI sound like "her". For the initial version, they had a voice actor that sounds like the movie, as a proof of concept. They still liked it, so it was time to contact the real star. In the end, it's not just the voice, it would have been the brand, just imagine the buzz they would h…

Agreed — seems like they had a plan, and probably talked extensively with Legal about how to develop and execute the plan to give themselves plausible deniability. The tweet was inadvisable, and undoubtedly not part of the actual plan (unless it was to get PR).

> unless it was to get PR

I think this possibility doesn't receive enough attention, there is a class of people who've figured out that they can say the most scandalous things online and it's a net positive because it generates so much exposure. (As a lowly middle class employee you can't do this - you just get fired and go broke - but at a certain level of wealth and power you're immune from that.) It is the old PT Barnum principle, "They can say whatever they want about me as long as they spell my name right." Guys like Trump and Musk know exactly what they're doing. Why wouldn't Sam?

Johansson's complaint is starting to look a little shaky especially if you remove that "her" Tweet from the equation. I wouldn't put this past Altman at all, he knows exactly what happened and what didn't inside OpenAI, so maybe he knew she didn't have a case and decided to play Sociopathic 3D Chess with her (and beat her in one round)

Re: OpenAI didn’t copy Scarlett Johansson’s voice for ChatGPT, records show

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I can't help but think that this was all planned. It is a very intricately planned, and geniously executed marketing ploy to make sure everyone knows about the company, the new release, that there is voice now, and even makes everyone look into it just to "see for themselves". Whether this was in with ScarJo in the loop or not, does not really change the outcome, but would be a nice information we probably will never…

I think you're giving far too much credit to those involved. Not everything is a plot.

Re: OpenAI didn’t copy Scarlett Johansson’s voice for ChatGPT, records show

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so how would the process of training a speaking AI go ? would you input the actor voice samples and subtitles from a movie, then train it till the output is similar enough to the actors voice from the movie ?

Just couple minutes of data through 10-20 minutes of training with RVC WebUI[0] on included base model into VC Client[1] gets you to 90% there. But that's nearly an year old method, so I'm sure OAI has its own completely novel architecture for extra 5% fidelity.

1: https://github.com/RVC-Project/Retrieval-based-Voice-Convers...

2: https://github.com/w-okada/voice-changer

Re: OpenAI didn’t copy Scarlett Johansson’s voice for ChatGPT, records show

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

How unique is a voice? I'm sure there's enough people out ther who sounds like Johansson. There's probably some argument for voice + personality + face + mannerisms, some gestalt that's more comparable to copying the likeness "person". But openAI is copying a fictional character played by Johansson, it's not her. Do actor/esses get to monopolize their depiction of fictional characters? Especially when it's not tied t…

"How unique is X" is something we can start to get quantitative answers to with strong machine learning models, and for most things people care about, it seems like the answer is "not very unique at all".

I think it's a very similar question to "how unique is your cooking". Most people aren't unique cooks.
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