At least they don't sweep bugs under the rug after 6 months of inactivity as many projects.
Firefox bug gets fixed after 25 years
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Re: Firefox bug gets fixed after 25 years
#82Hoping they do XDG next. Also been waiting for 20 years [1] [1] https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=259356
I don't think XDG base dir will ever be fully and universally adopted. It's been years (21 years to be exact). If it wasn't for Arch Linux getting hostile to programs that don't follow (like locking permissions of the root user directory), it probably wouldn't have grown as much as it has recently to what it is now because, honestly, the spec is not actively solving real problems people have. Most of the adoption is…
I also think app data in general is a mess. I hate the concept that any app I run can just access any other apps' data just because they share uid.
Honestly at this point I just want a clean $HOME.
Re: Firefox bug gets fixed after 25 years
#83Off topic but I really dislike the trend of using “human readable durations” like “a month ago”, just tell me the bloody date, I can figure out for myself. Outlook (Mac version at least) is the worst offender. For emails prior to the current day it will say for example just “yesterday” and it will only show you the time if you click on the email. I get dozens of mails per day, having just “yesterday” for 50 messages…
"Xenoamorphous 4 minutes ago", got it. Edit: 5 minutes ago.
I think you'll find it was 1 hour and 5 minutes ago.
Re: Firefox bug gets fixed after 25 years
#84Hoping they do XDG next. Also been waiting for 20 years [1] [1] https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=259356
I don't think XDG base dir will ever be fully and universally adopted. It's been years (21 years to be exact). If it wasn't for Arch Linux getting hostile to programs that don't follow (like locking permissions of the root user directory), it probably wouldn't have grown as much as it has recently to what it is now because, honestly, the spec is not actively solving real problems people have. Most of the adoption is…
> the loosy goosy config/data/cache split like they have it and the implied intent because not everything falls into those buckets and then you don't know the behavior of some system thing (is Dameon going to wipe my cache? are users going to copy the config folder around? what gets backed up exactly?) There is no standard for how the folders are really treated in the spec. Intentionally vague but possibly vague in ways that will break things if people make assumptions.
Can't say I've ever had issues with this regard, either in my own programs or in other programs I use. It always seems clear cut to me which should be used when. Can you give any examples?
> Get away from the UNIX permission model of running the programs under the user and run each program under it's own uid. It's now android works.
I don't blame other people if they want stuff like that, but personally I feel too old for that and will be sticking with what I've got (including XDG directories, because I find them easy and aesthetically pleasing.) All the newfangled sandboxing and stateless stuff is too much for me to learn for only academic benifit; I've never been pwned because thus far I have had good judgment with what software to trust. Learning whole new systems that disrupt my established workflows because I'm meant to be paranoid of the programs I choose to run just doesn't seem like a good tradeoff for me, personally.
It would be like ripping down all the walls in my house to install fire proof barriers, when I've been living in this house for 20 years without a hint of fire. If the house were built like that when I got it, then great, but it wasn't so I'm just going to be careful with candles and replacing smoke alarm batteries.
Re: Firefox bug gets fixed after 25 years
#85Off topic but I really dislike the trend of using “human readable durations” like “a month ago”, just tell me the bloody date, I can figure out for myself. Outlook (Mac version at least) is the worst offender. For emails prior to the current day it will say for example just “yesterday” and it will only show you the time if you click on the email. I get dozens of mails per day, having just “yesterday” for 50 messages…
Even worse when it's wrong, Discogs insists that October 2021 is "over three years ago"
Earlier this years, Github would routinely say "2 years ago" for comments made 11 months ago.
Re: Firefox bug gets fixed after 25 years
#86Off topic but I really dislike the trend of using “human readable durations” like “a month ago”, just tell me the bloody date, I can figure out for myself. Outlook (Mac version at least) is the worst offender. For emails prior to the current day it will say for example just “yesterday” and it will only show you the time if you click on the email. I get dozens of mails per day, having just “yesterday” for 50 messages…
I like it iff I can hover over the human readable version to get the actual timestamp.
Re: Firefox bug gets fixed after 25 years
#87Earlier quoted context omitted.
Hard disagree. The separator choice implies different ordering to me and to many others.
I never knew that, actually. I developed a habit of writing my dates with dashes instead of slashes because I thought the latter looked too much like the number 1. Makes me wonder how many people I've confused after they read paperwork I dated. I currently do ISO order with forward-slash as a separator, which might be similarly confusing.
There are systems out there that do YYYY/DD/MM. AFAICT YYYY-DD-MM is only used by evil pranksters, so a date that starts with a 4 digit number and uses dashes is relatively safely assumed as YYYY-MM-DD.
Re: Firefox bug gets fixed after 25 years
#88Resolution: --- → DUPLICATE
The duplicated bug was where the fix was landed, it was just easier to use a new bug rather than discuss things on the 25 year old bug.
Re: Firefox bug gets fixed after 25 years
#89Ha! I was subscribed to this bug for most of those 25 years. Note that Firefox didn't exist at the time, this was filed against Netscape Navigator. Don't remember why I was subscribed to the bug, must have commented on it or something. Got the occasional email notification about it over the years, always got a chuckle out of it. Then a couple of days ago, lo and behold, it was fixed!
Next should be Jira's ticket about versions across projects.
Wonder if others had the same local names, Nutscape and Internet Exploder.
Re: Firefox bug gets fixed after 25 years
#90Earlier quoted context omitted.
Hover? I'm on mobile...
This is kind of an aside, but hover is a perfectly valid UI mechanism, and I intensely dislike the trend of kneecapping the UI just to make it work on a touch screen. Some things just don't work well if you don't have a mouse. That doesn't mean we should throw them away. It just means that sometimes you need a mouse for real work. There's nothing wrong with that.
To each their own, I absolutely despise anything popping up, ever.
Stuff appearing and disappearing as I move my mouse around angers me, and I get even more annoyed when things pop up if I put my mouse somewhere to park it.
A full blown conniption fit happens if I park my mouse, start to read something, and a popup thing gets in the way. The neighbours know when that happens.