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What’s the difference between an -ectomy, an -ostomy, and an -otomy? (1986)

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Re: What’s the difference between an -ectomy, an -ostomy, and an -otomy? (1986)

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I was going to ask "What's an Ana and why are we cutting it?"

“Up” or “thoroughly”, apparently? Same prefix as in analysis, anaphora, anamorphism. Ancient Greek had a sprawling system of prefixes that one can’t really pick up by osmosis, it seems. (Complaints about noun morphology sound a bit hypocritical from a native speaker of Russian, I know, but it is what it is.)

Same Ana as in Analysis, anaphylactic, anamorphic...

Re: What’s the difference between an -ectomy, an -ostomy, and an -otomy? (1986)

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Actually -otomy isn't even -otomy... it's -tomy. For example Craniotomy. Cranio-tomy. cranio = κρανίο (skull) tomy = τομή (cut) And -tomy is just a cut, not cut a hole. To cut a hole you'd have to remove a part. Most of the cuts are straight lines and then the skin just opens up like a hole because of stretching. Then, -ostomy is -stomy. Nephrostomy. Nephro-stomy. Nephro = Νεφρό (Kidney) Stomy = Στόμιο (something tha…

I have to ask: is there a Greek equivalent for "it's all Greek to me"? Edit: I just did an internet search and found you use Chinese or Turkish instead. Never mind me.

We use Chinese in the French equivalent too

Re: What’s the difference between an -ectomy, an -ostomy, and an -otomy? (1986)

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Actually -otomy isn't even -otomy... it's -tomy. For example Craniotomy. Cranio-tomy. cranio = κρανίο (skull) tomy = τομή (cut) And -tomy is just a cut, not cut a hole. To cut a hole you'd have to remove a part. Most of the cuts are straight lines and then the skin just opens up like a hole because of stretching. Then, -ostomy is -stomy. Nephrostomy. Nephro-stomy. Nephro = Νεφρό (Kidney) Stomy = Στόμιο (something tha…

I didn’t realise so many of these medical terms were Greek rather than Latin. Interesting! Are these terms still used as-is in modern Greek? Much like how translating names of French dishes removes some of the air of sophistication, I feel like being told one is to receive a ‘skull cut’ sounds somewhat more scary than the (to an English speaker) academic-sounding ‘craniotomy’.

my latin teacher would always go on about how romans just copied the greek language (and more etc etc).

Re: What’s the difference between an -ectomy, an -ostomy, and an -otomy? (1986)

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post #80

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Actually -otomy isn't even -otomy... it's -tomy. For example Craniotomy. Cranio-tomy. cranio = κρανίο (skull) tomy = τομή (cut) And -tomy is just a cut, not cut a hole. To cut a hole you'd have to remove a part. Most of the cuts are straight lines and then the skin just opens up like a hole because of stretching. Then, -ostomy is -stomy. Nephrostomy. Nephro-stomy. Nephro = Νεφρό (Kidney) Stomy = Στόμιο (something tha…

I have to ask: is there a Greek equivalent for "it's all Greek to me"? Edit: I just did an internet search and found you use Chinese or Turkish instead. Never mind me.

And Turks use French for that.

Re: What’s the difference between an -ectomy, an -ostomy, and an -otomy? (1986)

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post #58

Pardon the ignorance 1986 Was this first published in 1986? On the ... internet?

Yes, 1986, on Usenet .. a pre WWW internet service. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usenet The same service the Linus | Tannenbaum Minux | Linux debate took place on. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tanenbaum%E2%80%93Torvalds_deb...

The Straight Dope was also a long-running newspaper column.

Re: What’s the difference between an -ectomy, an -ostomy, and an -otomy? (1986)

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Actually -otomy isn't even -otomy... it's -tomy. For example Craniotomy. Cranio-tomy. cranio = κρανίο (skull) tomy = τομή (cut) And -tomy is just a cut, not cut a hole. To cut a hole you'd have to remove a part. Most of the cuts are straight lines and then the skin just opens up like a hole because of stretching. Then, -ostomy is -stomy. Nephrostomy. Nephro-stomy. Nephro = Νεφρό (Kidney) Stomy = Στόμιο (something tha…

I didn’t realise so many of these medical terms were Greek rather than Latin. Interesting! Are these terms still used as-is in modern Greek? Much like how translating names of French dishes removes some of the air of sophistication, I feel like being told one is to receive a ‘skull cut’ sounds somewhat more scary than the (to an English speaker) academic-sounding ‘craniotomy’.

Doctors speak Greek; lawyers speak Latin.

Re: What’s the difference between an -ectomy, an -ostomy, and an -otomy? (1986)

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post #47
post #25

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Also, hyper- is more, hypo- is less.

Or even too much/high vs too little/low.

More accurate to say "hyper" is above, and "hypo" is below. So hypothermia is a temperature below [typical/safe levels]

Re: What’s the difference between an -ectomy, an -ostomy, and an -otomy? (1986)

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To make even more confusing, laryngology is the surgical specialty you would go see for a tracheal issue in the neck. (where a trach is performed) And a head and neck surgeon (oncologic surgery) is the one that performs the most laryngectomies. Fricken otolaryngologists…isnt the one name complicated enough.

I really get piqued when nobody wants to say chiropraxy. 'Chiropractic' is the effin' adjective form! O:-) FML SMH WARH

I for one am grateful that chiropractic was named in a way that openly advertised the lack of medical training, expertise, or science involved.

Re: What’s the difference between an -ectomy, an -ostomy, and an -otomy? (1986)

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post #40

It's fascinating how surgical terminology, much like programming languages, uses precise syntax to convey complex operations in a compact form. Just as in coding, where function names like append(), open(), or close() might describe operations on data, surgical terms like -ectomy, -ostomy, and -otomy encapsulate detailed medical procedures on the human body. This linguistic efficiency not only facilitates clear commu…

The purpose of language is to facilitate communication. Your observation seems trivial at best and tautological at worst.
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