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Re: GPT-4o

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Post by Jensson »

skilled wrote: post #27

Parts of the demo were quite choppy (latency?) so this definitely feels rushed in response to Google I/O. Other than that, looks good. Desktop app is great, but I didn’t see no mention of being able to use your own API key so OS projects might still be needed. The biggest thing is bringing GPT-4 to free users, that is an interesting move. Depending on what the limits are, I might cancel my subscription.

> Parts of the demo were quite choppy (latency?) so this definitely feels rushed in response to Google I/O.

It just stops the audio feed when it detects sound instead of an AI detecting when it should speak, so that part is horrible yeah. A full AI conversation would detect the natural pauses where you give it room to speak or when you try to take the word from it by interrupting, there it was just some dumb script to just shut it off when it hears sound.

But it is still very impressive for all the other part, that voice is really good.

Edit: If anyone from OpenAI reads this, at least fade out the voice quickly instead of chopping it, hard chopping off audio doesn't sound good at all, so many experienced this presentation to be extremely buggy due to it.

Re: GPT-4o

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Post by sebastiennight »

Anyone who watched the OpenAI livestream: did they "paste" the code after hitting CTRL+C ? Or did the desktop app just read from the clipboard?

Edit: I'm asking because of the obvious data security implications of having your desktop app read from the clipboard _in the live demo_... That would definitely put a damper to my fanboyish enthusiasm about that desktop app.

Re: GPT-4o

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Post by _Parfait_ »

syntaxing wrote: post #32

I admit I drink the koolaid and love LLMs and their applications. But damn, the way it’s responds in the demo gave me goosebumps in a bad way. Like an uncanny valley instincts kicks in.

You're watching the species be reduced to an LLM.

Re: GPT-4o

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Post by ayhanfuat »

Jordan-117 wrote: post #48
skilled wrote: post #27

Parts of the demo were quite choppy (latency?) so this definitely feels rushed in response to Google I/O. Other than that, looks good. Desktop app is great, but I didn’t see no mention of being able to use your own API key so OS projects might still be needed. The biggest thing is bringing GPT-4 to free users, that is an interesting move. Depending on what the limits are, I might cancel my subscription.

Seems like it was picking up on the audience reaction and stopping to listen. To me the more troubling thing was the apparent hallucination (saying it sees the equation before he wrote it, commenting on an outfit when the camera was down, describing a table instead of his expression), but that might have just been latency awkwardness. Overall, the fast response is extremely impressive, as is the new emotional dimensi…

Commenting on the outfit was very weird indeed. Greg Brockman's demo includes some outfit related questions (https://twitter.com/gdb/status/1790071008499544518). It does seem very impressive though, even if they polished it on some specific tasks. I am looking forward to showing my desktop and asking questions.

Re: GPT-4o

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Post by [deleted] »

spacebanana7 wrote: post #46

> We recognize that GPT-4o’s audio modalities present a variety of novel risks > For example, at launch, audio outputs will be limited to a selection of preset voices and will abide by our existing safety policies. I wonder if they’ll ever allow truly custom voices from audio samples.

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Re: GPT-4o

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Post by summerlight »

This is really impressive engineering. I thought real time agents would completely change the way we're going to interact with large models but it would take 1~2 more years. I wonder what kind of new techs are developed to enable this, but OpenAI is fairly secretive so we won't be able to know their sauce.

On the other hand, this also feels like a signal that reasoning capability has probably already been plateaued at GPT-4 level and OpenAI knew it so they decided to focus on research that matters to delivering product engineering rather than long-term research to unlock further general (super)intelligence.

Re: GPT-4o

#88

Post by MBCook »

Why must every website put stupid stuff that floats above the content and can’t be dismissed? It drives me nuts.

Re: GPT-4o

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Post by TIPSIO »

modeless wrote: post #78
msoad wrote: post #58

They are admitting[1] that the new model is the gpt2-chatbot that we have seen before[2]. As many highlighted there, the model is not an improvement like GPT3->GPT4. I tested a bunch of programming stuff and it was not that much better. It's interesting that OpenAI is highlighting the Elo score instead of showing results for many many benchmarks that all models are stuck at 50-70% success. [1] https://twitter.com/Lia…

"not that much better" is extremely impressive, because it's a much smaller and much faster model. Don't worry, GPT-5 is coming and it will be better.

Obviously given enough time there will always be better models coming.

But I am not convinced it will be another GPT-4 moment. Seems like big focus on tacking together multi-modal clever tricks vs straight better intelligence AI.

Hope they prove me wrong!

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