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Leaked deck reveals how OpenAI is pitching publisher partnerships

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Re: Leaked deck reveals how OpenAI is pitching publisher partnerships

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post #69

Earlier quoted context omitted.

With publishers' brands. This is not about getting Burger King ads in your ChatGPT responses, it's about getting NYT and Ars Technica's content into (and linked from) ChatGPT responses.

That’s a very fine distinction you are making. What happens when we get to the point where we are asking ChatGPT where to get a quick burger? Or even how to make a hamburger?

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Re: Leaked deck reveals how OpenAI is pitching publisher partnerships

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post #40

Why would anyone use chatgpt if it spams you? The second it recommends me a product i'm issuing a chargeback.

Because it won't feel like spam while it's happening - that's the entire point.

This is more like buying amazon reviews instead of earning them. Much more insidious than product placement .

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post #63

There's no way this doesn't backfire. OpenAI has no moat, so making the bot/api a shill just means people are going to use something else. GPT5 would have to be an order of magnitude better on the price/performance scale for me to even get close to this.

Let me test this hypothesis. I run a small business that pays for Google workspace. I pay for a ChatGPT subscription and use it daily as a coding copilot. Is there any reason I shouldn’t switch to Gemini and cancel ChatGPT? If no reason, I’ll try it this afternoon.

Llama3 and Claude also work well, they're good at different types of code and problem solving. The only thing ChatGPT does clearly better than the rest is infer meaning from poorly worded/written prompts.

Re: Leaked deck reveals how OpenAI is pitching publisher partnerships

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post #63

There's no way this doesn't backfire. OpenAI has no moat, so making the bot/api a shill just means people are going to use something else. GPT5 would have to be an order of magnitude better on the price/performance scale for me to even get close to this.

Let me test this hypothesis. I run a small business that pays for Google workspace. I pay for a ChatGPT subscription and use it daily as a coding copilot. Is there any reason I shouldn’t switch to Gemini and cancel ChatGPT? If no reason, I’ll try it this afternoon.

The main reason is that GPT-4 is still significantly better than everything else.

Time will tell if OpenAI will be able to retain the lead in the race, though. While there's no public competing model with equal power yet, competitors are definitely much closer than they were before, and keep advancing. But, of course, GPT-5 might be another major leap.

Re: Leaked deck reveals how OpenAI is pitching publisher partnerships

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Why would anyone use chatgpt if it spams you? The second it recommends me a product i'm issuing a chargeback.

The right question is "Why would anyone use chatgpt". The answer is https://hachyderm.io/@inthehands/112006855076082650

> You might be surprised to learn that I actually think LLMs have the potential to be not only fun but genuinely useful. “Show me some bullshit that would be typical in this context” can be a genuinely helpful question to have answered, in code and in natural language — for brainstorming, for seeing common conventions in an unfamiliar context, for having something crappy to react to.

> Alas, that does not remotely resemble how people are pitching this technology.

Slanting this towards a specific brand doesn't change that much. Some yes, but not that much.

Re: Leaked deck reveals how OpenAI is pitching publisher partnerships

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post #62

There's no way this doesn't backfire. OpenAI has no moat, so making the bot/api a shill just means people are going to use something else. GPT5 would have to be an order of magnitude better on the price/performance scale for me to even get close to this.

Everything else is going to be a shill, too. 'People' will eventually have to pay for these valuations.

That's exactly what Yann LeCunn @ Meta is fighting against, and it seems Mark Zuckerberg has his back.
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