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Apple users are being locked out of their Apple IDs with no explanation

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Re: Apple users are being locked out of their Apple IDs with no explanation

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Apple says there is nothing wrong.[1] When your identity provider has total control over your life, and you signed away your right to sue for damages, this is what happens. [1] https://www.apple.com/support/systemstatus/

Not only does the "walled garden" keep you safe, the walls are also too tall to escape it.

And apparently, sometimes, when you want to return to that walled garden, your keys to the front gate just don't work anymore.

Re: Apple users are being locked out of their Apple IDs with no explanation

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Last I saw you could enable full dtrace. Involved a reboot IIRC, which makes sense. I think the process wasn’t too different from what you do to enable unsigned kexts.

I’m aware that shoulder surgery that voids the wattrranty can do some stuff (yubai for example).

But we pay the markup because it Just Works.

Well it doesn’t just workes anymore.

Re: Apple users are being locked out of their Apple IDs with no explanation

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In the future you have people living in excile because the conputer says no. Nobody understands why. Nobody knows how to fix it. The computer says no. Nobody gives a damn. You have no access to a bank account. No access to find a job. No access to get health care etc

In the future? This is almost certainly already the case.

Re: Apple users are being locked out of their Apple IDs with no explanation

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Apple says there is nothing wrong.[1] When your identity provider has total control over your life, and you signed away your right to sue for damages, this is what happens. [1] https://www.apple.com/support/systemstatus/

I’m so glad it’s illegal for me to sign away my right to sue in Europe https://europa.eu/youreurope/citizens/consumers/unfair-treat...

Re: Apple users are being locked out of their Apple IDs with no explanation

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I'm using my own domain for e-mail, but obviously I need another e-mail for registrar, hoster, etc. I used to use gmail for that, but recently switched to icloud as I thought gmail is too dangerous with Google banning people around. Seems Apple's no better. I have no idea how to untangle this dependency chain. I'm using registrar in my country, so if everything goes wrong, I can just contact them with my ID and hopef…

Maybe an .edu account from a University or so? That’s my approach to the same issue. And my email is on Fastmail under a custom domain. They have good support so far

You can't use the edu after you leave the institution

Re: Apple users are being locked out of their Apple IDs with no explanation

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The thing that scared me recently was two updates that gave me new encryption keys. At first I trusted apple and wrote down the new key. But I became suspicious after the second update and checked online. It seems like it's happening to others, so I used the recommended command-line tool to verify my new encryption key and it didn't verify. Apparently it works after disabling and enabling encryption, but I'm just kee…

This also spooked me. I’m a former security professional—there are few good reasons Apple should be doing this, and it smells of a targeted attack. If I had a zero-day exploit to steal your data, this is what it would look like. In the other hand, if Apple suddenly found out that a good chunk of encrypted volumes weren’t actually encrypted / the key was recoverable by an offline attacker, this would also explain the…

Yeah, I’m one of the people affected by this and it has happened to me on multiple machines on multiple updates and I have no idea what’s happening. Of course the keys do not actually work like for everyone else, which is even worse from a consumer UX standpoint (if I didn’t knew better I’d just throw away the old key…)

Re: Apple users are being locked out of their Apple IDs with no explanation

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This is exactly what CloudFlare and Google have been doing for a while. i meet so many tech illiterate people who "can't log in to the internet" because of some discouraging CAPTCHA or because Gmail decided that even though they knew their passwords, a phone number they haven't used in 2 years (and has probably been reallocated to someone else) is a better proof of identity. It's a shame it's even legal to discrimina…

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More likely is that they are behind a CGNAT.

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Not only does the "walled garden" keep you safe, the walls are also too tall to escape it.

This is not exactly true. I can lift and shift to Google or Microsoft or standalone if I want to in a day easily. I just don’t want to! (I have tested this - always have an exit strategy)

Yeah, I never understood this whole "you're locked in, you can't get out of their ecosystem."

This has always been BS. I've switched from Apple to PC to Linux back to PC to Apple back to PC and then Android etc etc. It's actually quite simple. At the moment I'm using Apple stuff, but there's nothing holding me here other than just me being here.

Re: Apple users are being locked out of their Apple IDs with no explanation

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In the future you have people living in excile because the conputer says no. Nobody understands why. Nobody knows how to fix it. The computer says no. Nobody gives a damn. You have no access to a bank account. No access to find a job. No access to get health care etc

I suggest people to watch "I, Daniel Blake" who talks about malfunctioning administrative systems, and nobody caring about it. I'm aware it's not related to credential issues, but I see it as the same: you have an issue that's related to an edge case, and nobody gives a damn about it, nobody takes the responsibility to look and see what's wrong about it
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