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Air Force picks Anduril, General Atomics to develop unmanned fighter jets

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Re: Air Force picks Anduril, General Atomics to develop unmanned fighter jets

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Post by pineaux »

4gotunameagain wrote: post #73
yakshaving_jgt wrote: post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The last time I saw one of these weapons in use was when I was standing in my kitchen in Ukraine and through the window I could see a missile take down a russian suicide drone. How is that not defence?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_wars_involving_the_Uni... Ukraine is the only case. And let's not forget that the US is indirectly responsible for the Russian invasion. I know that it is very hard for you to see things objectively, and I am sorry for what you and your country is experiencing.

I will never say that the NATO is an innocent organisation; however, to say that the US/NATO is indirectly responsible is a stretch. It would imply that the US invading Mexico would be justified if they were to become allies with Russia. I would as strongly oppose that as well.

Re: Air Force picks Anduril, General Atomics to develop unmanned fighter jets

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Post by klausa »

ordinaryradical wrote: post #50
vkou wrote: post #20

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Only if their warhawk counterparts hold their next shindig somewhere in Gaza (So they can see first-hand what the consequences of their work and advocacy look like).

If you don’t want to build weapons because you don’t like the variety of ways they may be wielded, that’s a valid and reasonable ethical stance. If you don’t want to build anything that could ever potentially be used in the manufacture of those weapons, you probably shouldn’t be building open source software or contributing anything to do with any programming language at all.

I think there's a big difference between "being used by" and "being active members of the community".

Open Source means you can't really prohibit Anduril from using your projects; but _welcoming_ them and their money is a different matter altogether.

Re: Air Force picks Anduril, General Atomics to develop unmanned fighter jets

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Post by ninetyninenine »

dcgoss wrote: post #21

Anduril's Fury aircraft: https://www.anduril.com/fury/

Marketing. Trust me... it's not that cool. They hire artists to design this stuff. Not kidding. The exterior is made by an industrial designer more so then an actual engineer. I would know, I worked at the company previously.

Re: Air Force picks Anduril, General Atomics to develop unmanned fighter jets

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Post by yakshaving_jgt »

4gotunameagain wrote: post #73
yakshaving_jgt wrote: post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The last time I saw one of these weapons in use was when I was standing in my kitchen in Ukraine and through the window I could see a missile take down a russian suicide drone. How is that not defence?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_wars_involving_the_Uni... Ukraine is the only case. And let's not forget that the US is indirectly responsible for the Russian invasion. I know that it is very hard for you to see things objectively, and I am sorry for what you and your country is experiencing.

Why do you feel that you are able to see things objectively?

To me, it looks like you are repeating kremlin propaganda. It looks like you’re another victim of the Chomsky school of propaganda.

The USA isn’t responsible for russia’s invasion of Ukraine (or Georgia, earlier). If they are, it’s only responsible insofar as allowing useful idiots to apply political pressure to their governments and force them into pacifism, thereby enabling russian aggression.

If you want to have a discussion about this, could you start by not being so patronising?

Re: Air Force picks Anduril, General Atomics to develop unmanned fighter jets

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Post by yakshaving_jgt »

4gotunameagain wrote: post #76
jagger27 wrote: post #75

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The objectives of a land grabbing tyrant are what’s objective. You can’t be serious.

As you might be aware, which I cannot be certain of given your insubstantial reply, international geopolitics are usually a bit more nuanced than an aggressive "land grabbing tyrant".

Russel Brand? Is that you?

It doesn’t make one an intellectual to shroud their own tenuous grasp on reality with a cover of “ooohh!!! Nuaaannce!!!”

The international geopolitics here are very simple.

The russian federation aims to rebuild the former russian empire. They’re prosecuting this by first trying to exterminate Ukraine as a population, as a nation, as a culture, and as an identity.

It has nothing to do with NATO expansion, or sob stories russia has published about them needing to defend themselves.

Re: Air Force picks Anduril, General Atomics to develop unmanned fighter jets

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Post by matthewmacleod »

ranger_danger wrote: post #52
ordinaryradical wrote: post #9

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Some of the more leftwing NixOS contributors hate that Anduril is using their technology and are trying to keep them from contributing/sponsoring/etc. via code of conduct changes.

Honestly I think military is just a scapegoat for these people, their real mission (like many before them) seems to be using the lack of CoC acceptance as their own weapon to justify bullying them for having opinions they don't like. That has always been the MO. They want the CoC to be able to silence undesired speech in the first place, and if they refuse, it becomes their strawman to allow them to keep arguing the…

I think it’s entirely valid for a community to decide they don’t want participation and funding from a defence contractor. That isn’t a scapegoat - it’s the actual goal.

You may or may not agree with this stance and that is totally fine. You’re still free to use the software for whatever you want; you can also go ahead and fork it, or create a new community endorsing this use. If enough people agree then it will thrive. That’s the beauty of it!

A specific community has the freedom—within the bounds of legality—to decide who is welcome to participate.

Re: Air Force picks Anduril, General Atomics to develop unmanned fighter jets

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Post by adastra22 »

renewiltord wrote: post #61
modeless wrote: post #35

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Hopefully this time the incumbent doesn't get paid twice as much for a worse outcome, as happened with Commercial Crew... NASA paid Boeing 4.5 billion and counting, SpaceX 2.6 billion. SpaceX launched astronauts to ISS 7 times, completely fulfilling the original contract, and continues to launch on new contracts with NASA. Meanwhile Boeing has yet to fly a single astronaut and required NASA to pay them extra for thei…

That's just one contract. SpaceX will win the rest. ULA is dead. They're being sold for parts.

Boeing not ULA. But yeah Starliner isn’t flying any more missions than they are contractually obligated to fly.

Re: Air Force picks Anduril, General Atomics to develop unmanned fighter jets

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Post by adastra22 »

wmf wrote: post #51
modeless wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hopefully this time the incumbent doesn't get paid twice as much for a worse outcome, as happened with Commercial Crew... NASA paid Boeing 4.5 billion and counting, SpaceX 2.6 billion. SpaceX launched astronauts to ISS 7 times, completely fulfilling the original contract, and continues to launch on new contracts with NASA. Meanwhile Boeing has yet to fly a single astronaut and required NASA to pay them extra for thei…

If those are the two lowest bids what else are you going to do?

Tried this kind of contract they don’t award to the lowest bids. There are 3-4 other factors that take higher priority.

Re: Air Force picks Anduril, General Atomics to develop unmanned fighter jets

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Post by ein0p »

I find it remarkable how the readers of this site are at the same time “worried about LLMs”, and totally enthusiastic towards what will inevitably become a no-human-in-the-loop Skynet. Sure, we’ll all get smashed with drones if we stop paying taxes or otherwise disobey, but at least our LLMs won’t accidentally praise Hitler or something.

Re: Air Force picks Anduril, General Atomics to develop unmanned fighter jets

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Post by brunoqc »

ein0p wrote: post #89

I find it remarkable how the readers of this site are at the same time “worried about LLMs”, and totally enthusiastic towards what will inevitably become a no-human-in-the-loop Skynet. Sure, we’ll all get smashed with drones if we stop paying taxes or otherwise disobey, but at least our LLMs won’t accidentally praise Hitler or something.

We are on a venture capital website. Don't be surprised that when people read an article about killer drones, they just salivate at the sweet pentagon money.
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