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Curl is just the hobby

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Re: Curl is just the hobby

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think his complaint is that HSTS also prevents the user from overriding it and Firefox is complying, which I agree is a bit annoying.

Bingo. Primarily because I don't really mind if reading this post is compromised, but at least partly because I hadn't thought through the implications of vodafone intercepting traffic.

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Re: Curl is just the hobby

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post #39

Off topic but I find it wild that SF has API ads on bus shelters. Is that unusual/right in a dev hotspot, or have I been well underestimating just how intrinsic the tech culture is there? (I’m an Australian, so I guess my question applies to the US as much as SF)

NYC has Mullvad VPN ads in the subway.

Same in LA! I saw an entire train plastered with a mullvad ad on the outside. The ad didn't even say "Mullvad", it just had the logo and some "free the Internet" slogans. Truly bizarre.

Re: Curl is just the hobby

#83

If a man knows how to save the world from imminent asteroid impact, how much should he be paid? If he does it without pay but asks afterwards for pay commensurate with delivered value, how much should he be paid? Who pays it?

At least he should not get angry comments (as mentioned in the article) about how saving the world is the job of NASA, and he had no business saving the world as an individual

Re: Curl is just the hobby

#84

Off topic but I find it wild that SF has API ads on bus shelters. Is that unusual/right in a dev hotspot, or have I been well underestimating just how intrinsic the tech culture is there? (I’m an Australian, so I guess my question applies to the US as much as SF)

There's a mall in Santiago de Chile that has ads for Copilot.

Re: Curl is just the hobby

#85

Off topic but I find it wild that SF has API ads on bus shelters. Is that unusual/right in a dev hotspot, or have I been well underestimating just how intrinsic the tech culture is there? (I’m an Australian, so I guess my question applies to the US as much as SF)

Depends by state. Florida has lawyer ads. “Have you argued with a woman” ads.

Re: Curl is just the hobby

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post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've travelled to SF (from Poland) and this has struck me too, together with lawyer ads.

> lawyer ads I take it you haven't had the pleasure of driving thru Philadelphia. Some say you can even see skyscrapers behind the sea of lawyer ads.

And Florida. Most popular billboard ad is a lawyer ad.

I’m glad WA banned them.

Re: Curl is just the hobby

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post #7

Off topic but I find it wild that SF has API ads on bus shelters. Is that unusual/right in a dev hotspot, or have I been well underestimating just how intrinsic the tech culture is there? (I’m an Australian, so I guess my question applies to the US as much as SF)

The same thing stroke me, I assumed it is specific to an area where there are many software engineers. I think people mostly don't know about Curl and PUT requests, it probably would be a huge waste of money to advertize like this in the wild. Not that I don't think ads are a huge waste in general.

hi, Stytch team member here who worked on the PUT request ad from Daniel's post -- feel free to AMA

TL;DR on 'why pay to put a curl request on an ad' is what you all have already said -- (1) unique concentration of tech in SF; and (2) to specifically engage software engineers. More on each...

(1) We wouldn't have run this ad in Sydney, or New York, or LA. SF definitely has an uniquely tech-oriented culture, and in particular has lots of startups in our ideal customer persona (ICP) at Stytch - in this case, engineers building B2B SaaS apps.

But in addition to the people who live in SF, even more software engineers visit the city for conferences, or events, or to fundraise. For example, while our ads are up over the next month, SF will host Stripe Sessions and POSTCon (two entire conferences focused around APIs), plus RSA (security focused).

(2) And although even with that, only a small segment of the pop will understand the ads, those people might be intrigued enough to actually look at them - and our ultimate goal is to get more engineers to look at our code & our docs. Another perk is that engineers can't use ad blockers if the ad is on a bus shelter :)

So that was a bit of the thinking for us - on why SF & why a PUT request on a billboard. We're also making the physical ads into an anchor for a 'marketing moment' for Stytch -- so pair offline ads with digital marketing, as well. So if we're successful, maybe you'll see more on that, soon.

Re: Curl is just the hobby

#88

Off topic but I find it wild that SF has API ads on bus shelters. Is that unusual/right in a dev hotspot, or have I been well underestimating just how intrinsic the tech culture is there? (I’m an Australian, so I guess my question applies to the US as much as SF)

Sydney Airport will frequently have some hyper-specific ads around it. This happens pretty much everywhere. I occasionally see tech/API ads on the London Underground. You often see ads for all sorts of niches that would probably be smaller than developer and developer-adjacent people.

I've heard that, sometimes, buying ads in a prominent public place like this can be the best way to influence one or two crucial executives that you're trying to target. It can be worth the cost just for the one or two impressions.

Re: Curl is just the hobby

#89

> I would personally perhaps protest against the use of PUT for POSTing JSON, but nobody asked me. Just wondering, if the resource ID is known, I thought PUT is the recommended method? We usually use POST for creating a new resource for which you don't know an ID yet.

Loving the nerd sniping here haha.

Join us at Stytch (https://stytch.com/careers) if you have a strong opinion so you can decide whether this should be a POST or PUT :)

Re: Curl is just the hobby

#90

> https://daniel.haxx.se/blog/2024/04/22/curl-is-just-the-hobb... has a security policy called HTTP Strict Transport Security (HSTS), which means that Firefox can only connect to it securely. You can’t add an exception to visit this site. That's aggravating. What's the workaround? edit0: Chrome made more progress, then collided with Vodafone's shitty approximation to infrastructure which is known unsolvable. edit1: M…

vodafone has been blocking my site daniel.haxx.se for several years.

Discussed on this very site for example back in 2022: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31248250

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