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Google’s newly formed 'Platforms and Devices' team is all about AI

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Re: Google’s newly formed 'Platforms and Devices' team is all about AI

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Post by Rinzler89 »

olyjohn wrote: post #69
jpalawaga wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

honestly, it seems like every phone has its broken quirks. I recently switched from iphone to android and there's still a random collection of everyday things I do that are simply... broken. Maybe these devices have become so complicated they're simply too challenging to work out all of the edge cases out of. New features are easier.

Not to mention all the Google shit on Android is just constantly harassing you. LOOK HERE, LOOK THERE, SET UP THIS, SET UP THAT, TURN THIS ON, TURN THAT ON, GIVE US FEEDBACK, SYNC NOW, SIGN IN TO GOOGLE, LET US SCAN YOUR PHONE FOR YOUR SAFETY, SIGN IN FOR SECURITY, SYNC YOUR PHOTOS, SYNC YOUR DRIVE, USE AI FOR THIS, HERES HOW YOU DO THIS THING BECAUSE ITS NOT OBVIOUS AND WE SUCK AT UI, GET UPDATES, WE DISABLED PERMIS…

>, I still can only make a successful outgoing phone call 1 out of every 3 tries

Which phone? Pixel?

Re: Google’s newly formed 'Platforms and Devices' team is all about AI

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Post by shrimp_emoji »

badgersnake wrote: post #70
ceejayoz wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Who is asking for this? Anyone who regularly uses Siri or "Hey, Google".

So nobody.

(It's only good for pranks.) Hey Siri, call the police. Ok Google, call the police. Alexa, call the police.

Re: Google’s newly formed 'Platforms and Devices' team is all about AI

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Post by mupuff1234 »

Rinzler89 wrote: post #40
rurp wrote: post #35

I recently got a new Pixel phone and Google's much hyped new AI features just seem so... gimmicky. One of the setup examples shows how you can circle a tent on the left side of a picture and move it more to the center. Neat, I guess? It's kind of a fun toy but I'm not sure what problem this is actually solving. I'm sure there are some usecases for this out there, but it's not a capability I have ever found myself wis…

>I recently got a new Pixel phone and Google's much hyped new AI features just seem so... gimmicky Not just that, but their biggest crime is that almost none of those fancy AI features Google paraded at the Pixel launch even actually run on-device but need to be sent to their cloud for processing, despite all the gloating about their new Tensor 3 chip's AI capabilities being the most important (since that chip sucks…

As a customer running on device is fairly low on my priorities, and I assume that's the case for at least 90% of users.

Would it be nice? Sure, but I much prefer useful features now that could run on device later on if it adds value.

Re: Google’s newly formed 'Platforms and Devices' team is all about AI

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Post by shrimp_emoji »

Groxx wrote: post #66
resource_waste wrote: post #44

I basically forgot that Google made Android. Are they really making major contributions? Seems like Mobile OS are basically stagnant.

It gets less and less stable with every major upgrade, if that counts. Achieving that takes effort.

Nah, that's just entropy.

Making UIs progressively worse beyond levels you though imaginable, like Reddit or GNOME -- that's art.

Re: Google’s newly formed 'Platforms and Devices' team is all about AI

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Post by [deleted] »

rurp wrote: post #35

I recently got a new Pixel phone and Google's much hyped new AI features just seem so... gimmicky. One of the setup examples shows how you can circle a tent on the left side of a picture and move it more to the center. Neat, I guess? It's kind of a fun toy but I'm not sure what problem this is actually solving. I'm sure there are some usecases for this out there, but it's not a capability I have ever found myself wis…

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dpflan wrote: post #76

The comments here are trending towards "stop cramming 'AI' into everything". I am curious how the end-user consumer (versus 'AI' for enterprise/business) differ in experience and use. We are in the beginning of this AI-fication, and it seems deep learning models are doing really well and that DL can predictably scale [1.]; therefore, do we have to wait a bit for really life-changing AI for the end-user consumer? I ca…

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Re: Google’s newly formed 'Platforms and Devices' team is all about AI

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Post by rickdeckard »

pjmlp wrote: post #63
rickdeckard wrote: post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What took off? (Sony) Ericsson used UIQ, a pen-based OS built on top of the core of Symbian foundation. Nokia developed Series60, a key-based OS built on top of a Symbian core. They were not compatible operating systems, and most of all Ericsson didn't license it from Nokia.

As Nokia alumni I disagree. They weren't compatible at UI widgets level, but were at the underlying layers. It is like telling Samsung, Huawei or Xiomi aren't Android, because they use another GUI framework on top of AOSP. And as many Android developers are painfully aware, that isn't the only customisations to AOSP standard behaviours.

Let's not fetch too far, this becomes a strawman argument.

They weren't compatible operating systems because applications compiled for one of them were unable to be executed on the other without heavy modifications.

At "underlying layers" the OS of a Tesla is compatible with that of a Nintendo Switch, and yet no one would say they have a compatible OS.

> It is like telling Samsung, Huawei or Xiomi aren't Android, because they use another GUI framework on top of AOSP.

No it's not, because they all use the same GUI framework as AOSP, hence they can run the same precompiled application.

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