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Re: Kate editor on all platforms

#81

Post by The_Colonel »

SuaveSteve wrote: post #69
qiqitori wrote: post #63

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Too bad that gedit is utter garbage now. Lol Gnome. My pet rabbit gets confused when there are too many features so let's remove them all.

No. No. No. You have it wrong, my friend. The entire thing, like systemd and wayland, is a glorified excuse to reinvent the wheel so that a fresh batch of wizards can continue the cycle.

Ah, this thought stopping argument again.

X11 is garbage which nobody wants to maintain, let alone develop. It's a very archaic design which is patched via extensions to sorta support some modern concepts which negate the network transparency anyway.

Both Wayland and systemd have a very wide developer consensus, because they finally provide a maintainable solution to their respective problems. The drama is constructed by a small minority of contrarians.

Re: Kate editor on all platforms

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Post by thaumasiotes »

andmarios wrote: post #45

Kate was one of the main reasons I switched to Linux in 2004/2005. I had a lab in MySQL, and back then, the only option to develop in Windows was MySQL Workbench, which was as heavy as it got. Running an SQL statement was painfully slow, and iteration cycles were huge. In Linux, you would write your SQL in Kate, and run MySQL's cli in the embedded terminal. Once ready, you would click the button “pipe to terminal". I…

> Another reason was Amarok, an (the) mp3 player.

It's dead now.

Re: Kate editor on all platforms

#84

Post by andreyv »

The_Colonel wrote: post #81
SuaveSteve wrote: post #69

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No. No. No. You have it wrong, my friend. The entire thing, like systemd and wayland, is a glorified excuse to reinvent the wheel so that a fresh batch of wizards can continue the cycle.

Ah, this thought stopping argument again. X11 is garbage which nobody wants to maintain, let alone develop. It's a very archaic design which is patched via extensions to sorta support some modern concepts which negate the network transparency anyway. Both Wayland and systemd have a very wide developer consensus, because they finally provide a maintainable solution to their respective problems. The drama is constructe…

Old does not mean bad. Even a decade later Wayland struggles to provide basic features that were built in the X protocol.

Re: Kate editor on all platforms

#85

Post by bigstrat2003 »

The_Colonel wrote: post #79
xvedejas wrote: post #59

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KDE is still great! I continue to see improvements and KDE6 has some killer features like KDE Connect. (we still don't talk about KDE4 though)

KDE4 is a sad story. It ruined the reputation of KDE for a very long time. I loved KDE 3.5, but then came back to KDE only in 2021. It's mostly just a problem of communication. KDE 4.0 should not have been marked as stable and should not been used by distros. If they baked KDE4 for two more years and on the side maintained/developed 3.5, the transition might be much smoother.

That version thing was frustrating because it was an unforced error. Surely someone, at some point, brought up that people would expect the version number to mean that it was ready for use. But they chose to proceed with using their idiosyncratic version scheme, and unsurprisingly suffered a reputation hit for it.

Re: Kate editor on all platforms

#86

Post by EasyMark »

no_wizard wrote: post #52
eMPee584 wrote: post #34

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And it seems konqueror is the only browser today that can split a tab into multiple panes! I used this a lot in 3.5 times. It still works, just need to file another bug report for sane dnd behavior..

Vivaldi does this if I recall correctly

It does indeed

Re: Kate editor on all platforms

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Post by opan »

sparkie wrote: post #57
Lyngbakr wrote: post #26

I'd never heard of Kate and wondered if someone could explain what Kate's differentiator is versus other popular editors (e.g., Vim, Emacs, VSCode)? Is there something in particular that sets it apart or is it just a matter of taste?

My favourite Kate feature is sessions . Whatever your working on, you can save the session - including all open files and editor layouts, and restore it later on.

This is a killer feature in (n)vim as well. I had been trying out emacs + evil for some months at one point (was previously a vim user), but never got session restores working well at all. With vim it all restores, it's in the right spot, and even remote files opened with the scp:// syntax reopen perfectly. No plugins needed. I just use one session with the default filename of Session.vim, so a quick `nvim -S` gets me back in action and I don't mind restarting my editor much at all. With emacs I'd dread it and it was one of the worst parts of a session restart or reboot.

Highly recommend anyone see if their favorite editor can do sessions.

Re: Kate editor on all platforms

#90

Post by FeepingCreature »

The_Colonel wrote: post #79
xvedejas wrote: post #59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

KDE is still great! I continue to see improvements and KDE6 has some killer features like KDE Connect. (we still don't talk about KDE4 though)

KDE4 is a sad story. It ruined the reputation of KDE for a very long time. I loved KDE 3.5, but then came back to KDE only in 2021. It's mostly just a problem of communication. KDE 4.0 should not have been marked as stable and should not been used by distros. If they baked KDE4 for two more years and on the side maintained/developed 3.5, the transition might be much smoother.

KDE4 ruined Amarok too. That's why there's Clementine and Strawberry now, which are forks from Amarok 1.4.
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