Scary.
The xz sshd backdoor rabbithole goes quite a bit deeper
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Re: The xz sshd backdoor rabbithole goes quite a bit deeper
#82Earlier quoted context omitted.
Amusing. I was always irritated by the very concept of threadreaderapp and by people's propensity for posting the links (just read it on the website! There's no need to spend extra compute to join up some divs!) - but Elon's ever-increasing breakage of the site now makes it genuinely useful.
"ever increasing"? Twitter is completely, 110% unusable without an account (and dear god, I dare some of you to make a new account and see what the process and default content is. It's gross ). I say 110% not to be hyperbolic -- It shows you non-latest tweets on profiles, it doesn't let you see tweet threads or replies, even from the original poster when they post a chain of tweets. I literally can't read any of this…
Making the account wasn't that annoying. Once upon a time they demanded my phone number and that was obnoxious to the point of noping out, but nowadays (after Musk took over?) they also take email instead. Email for registering accounts is nothing new, so no big deal; been doing that since 2002 when I registered my first forum account.
After I made my account I went and followed all the accounts I usually follow, and my recommendations got relevant in very short order: Posts from illustrators, the games, and players who play those games.
So, thanks Musk. You've at least convinced one guy to make an account where Dorsey flatly couldn't, and made the guy even happy about it which was pleasantly surprising.
Re: The xz sshd backdoor rabbithole goes quite a bit deeper
#83Re: The xz sshd backdoor rabbithole goes quite a bit deeper
#84Earlier quoted context omitted.
"ever increasing"? Twitter is completely, 110% unusable without an account (and dear god, I dare some of you to make a new account and see what the process and default content is. It's gross ). I say 110% not to be hyperbolic -- It shows you non-latest tweets on profiles, it doesn't let you see tweet threads or replies, even from the original poster when they post a chain of tweets. I literally can't read any of this…
I made an account after Musk took over and Mysterious Twitter X started mandating logging in, in large part since he made the place tolerable and I follow illustrators and official accounts for games I play anyway. Making the account wasn't that annoying. Once upon a time they demanded my phone number and that was obnoxious to the point of noping out, but nowadays (after Musk took over?) they also take email instead.…
oh yeah? Interesting you chose not to elaborate on how, given the statements I made about ruining public access stand.
But in summary, you're saying you used the platform the same way it was usable before Elon bought it, other than all of the things I mentioned that make it unusable for those not-logged-in? Let's be frank, Elon made it 200% worse, than relinquished to only 150% worse, and that's a win?
Re: The xz sshd backdoor rabbithole goes quite a bit deeper
#85Earlier quoted context omitted.
I made an account after Musk took over and Mysterious Twitter X started mandating logging in, in large part since he made the place tolerable and I follow illustrators and official accounts for games I play anyway. Making the account wasn't that annoying. Once upon a time they demanded my phone number and that was obnoxious to the point of noping out, but nowadays (after Musk took over?) they also take email instead.…
>in large part since he made the place tolerable oh yeah? Interesting you chose not to elaborate on how, given the statements I made about ruining public access stand. But in summary, you're saying you used the platform the same way it was usable before Elon bought it, other than all of the things I mentioned that make it unusable for those not-logged-in? Let's be frank, Elon made it 200% worse, than relinquished to…
Re: The xz sshd backdoor rabbithole goes quite a bit deeper
#86Earlier quoted context omitted.
>in large part since he made the place tolerable oh yeah? Interesting you chose not to elaborate on how, given the statements I made about ruining public access stand. But in summary, you're saying you used the platform the same way it was usable before Elon bought it, other than all of the things I mentioned that make it unusable for those not-logged-in? Let's be frank, Elon made it 200% worse, than relinquished to…
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Re: The xz sshd backdoor rabbithole goes quite a bit deeper
#87The weird thing about this one is how it seems super professional in some ways, and rather amateur in others. Professional in the sense of spending a long time building up an identity that seemed trustworthy enough to be made maintainer of an important package, of probably involving multiple people in social manipulation attacks, of not leaking the true identity and source of the attack, and the sophistication and ob…
Is not possible the attacker simply took over the account of some one genuinely getting involved in the community either hacked or just with $5 wrench and then committed the malicious code ?
Re: The xz sshd backdoor rabbithole goes quite a bit deeper
#88The weird thing about this one is how it seems super professional in some ways, and rather amateur in others. Professional in the sense of spending a long time building up an identity that seemed trustworthy enough to be made maintainer of an important package, of probably involving multiple people in social manipulation attacks, of not leaking the true identity and source of the attack, and the sophistication and ob…
I read somewhere that some recent changes in systems would've made the backdoor useless so they had to rush out, which caused them to be reckless and get discovered
The backdoor relies on sshd being patched to depend on libsystemd to call sd_notify(), which several distros had done.
OpenSSH has since merged a new patch upstream that implements similar logic to sd_notify() in sshd itself to allow distros to drop that patch.
So the attack surface of both sshd and libsystemd has since shrunk a bit.
Re: The xz sshd backdoor rabbithole goes quite a bit deeper
#89The weird thing about this one is how it seems super professional in some ways, and rather amateur in others. Professional in the sense of spending a long time building up an identity that seemed trustworthy enough to be made maintainer of an important package, of probably involving multiple people in social manipulation attacks, of not leaking the true identity and source of the attack, and the sophistication and ob…
It’s also possible that this could be a change in personnel. Maybe the one who earned trust and took over was no more working for them. And an amateur took over with tight deadlines that lead to this gaffe for them.
Re: The xz sshd backdoor rabbithole goes quite a bit deeper
#90I haven't been following this story super closely but I find it extremely odd that I've heard zero discussion about the perpetrator of this hack.