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Cybersecurity Is Broken

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Re: Cybersecurity Is Broken

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> I don't care that you feel restricted Yeah well, this is why we don't like security engineers. You absolutely should care that the policies you push for are making workers feel restricted. For your job to even exist, engineers must be able to produce just remember that.

There is a middle ground between keeping users (in this case Engineering) happy and an environment secure. Ideally, Security Ownership should be taken up by the Application/Dev team with an open understanding that heads roll if you messed up ("ownership"), and a security team and platform team exists to help consult and implement security and deployment. I guess they call philosophy "DevSecOps" or "Shift-Left" in the…

Security, features, and speed of development all tend to be at odds with each other. And the major problem is: security doesn't gain money. The others do. Security is pure risk management.

So it will almost always get the backburner. Hell even if there are financial consequences: those don't matter if you don't really make money in the first place.

Re: Cybersecurity Is Broken

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though I can safely say that $500k year is VERY HIGH for a CISO. I know CISOs for publicly listed F500s who earn around 200-300k at most after 15-20 YoE. … If I'm honest, most security engineers suck. 90% are crappy IT Admins or Compliance Monkeys who did CISSP and maybe worked for PWC or an MDR for 1-2 years and don't know the difference between NFTables and NTFS. Most CISOs and VP Sec are former security engineers…

> Dinosaur companies I'm curious what are the dinosaur companies in your mind. Some "dinosaurs" are actually extremely technical and on top of their shit, and some companies HNers/Redditors/LWers love for their supposed engineering chops have their pants off. Also the number I gave was for a sexy publicly listed tech company that a lot of HNers try to Leetcode grind to. > more than their Assistant Regional Managers I…

Come off of it. This guy: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phil_Venables_(computer_scie...

isn’t making only $500k a year in total comp. Nor is an assistant regional manager at say, Target, making only $180k/year.

Quit making things up.

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