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Blue Ball Machine
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#82There exists an old game called "The Incredible Machine" where you create these.
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FWIW, the book The Identity Trap by Yasha Mounk attributes the popularisation of what it calls the Identity Synthesis to social media such as Tumblr, then later Reddit, Twitter, Instagram; and web sites such as Thought Catalog, later Jezebel, xoJane, Rookie Mag, and the Daily Dot, then everydayfeminism.com, Salon, Vox. I think it's conceivable that, while these ideas on the left and right later entered all social med…
> I wonder whether one could quantify/measure [where ideas originated and entered the mainstream] somehow. You could probably use something like genetic tracing, if you could come up with a way of fingerprinting free text semi-reliably. My expectation is there are probably "tell words" (i.e. not used elsewhere or for that purpose) in novel ideas, and you could likely observe these spreading over time, as the ideas ca…
A complication is that some of this jargon gets mangled over time. "Based and redpilled" is definite jargon associated with certain subcultures, but you won't see it in mainstream media other than articles about that exact phrase.
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#84Earlier quoted context omitted.
FWIW, the book The Identity Trap by Yasha Mounk attributes the popularisation of what it calls the Identity Synthesis to social media such as Tumblr, then later Reddit, Twitter, Instagram; and web sites such as Thought Catalog, later Jezebel, xoJane, Rookie Mag, and the Daily Dot, then everydayfeminism.com, Salon, Vox. I think it's conceivable that, while these ideas on the left and right later entered all social med…
As someone who was exposed to 4chan at far too young of an age, I don't buy this. There's no political philisophy happening on /pol/, nor has there ever been. Granted, I avoided that board like the plague, but cursory glances never showed me any novel ideas being formulated. Even if there is real conversation of various political ideologies, it's drowned out by a sea of kids who think it's cool to say the N word onli…
4chan is the infinite racists on infinite typewriters analogy; that said, some ideas converge and crystallize and escape out of the shitposts. Greentext screenshots and images that are distributed outside of the cesspool and get mainstream appeal though e.g. Reddit.
Survivorship bias, evolutionary somethings, and curation help the shit escape 4chan's confines. I can probably word that more eloquently when my brain isn't fried.
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I think you are underestimating the reach of TV before the internet.
For better or worse, TV is paid for by advertisers. On the upside, that does put some limits on how objectionable the content can be before nobody's willing to pay for its distribution.
Counterpoint, the owners and showrunners of those TV channels decide what is aired and how, so a lot of TV channels have become propaganda outlets for one side or another. Most infamous in the English speaking countries is News Corp / Rupert Murdoch, who has pushed a right-wing, anti-lgbt narrative for a long time now.
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#86Part of me likes all the insanity with the internet back then, with mixed feelings. I probably got computer skills wasting time on YTMND for one reason or another. I 100% attribute 4chan's b for inspiring me to program. Their raids inspired me to learn programming when I was a teenager. But... I see that the alt-right came out of 4chan and the previously funny memes were no longer funny memes but serious accusations.…
I think you give too much agency to 4chan. It's just a imageboard - an internet forum - that happened to have some subforums related to alt-right. Maybe it had (has) a bad influence on people, but it's hundred times smaller than Facebook, Twitter or Reddit. To say it has single handedly started a movement is a huge stretch.
No, there was a concerted effort to radicalize the site.
https://www.vice.com/en/article/m7aap8/the-man-who-helped-tu...
My serious but unsubstantiated suspicion is that this was part of a neoconservative campaign, which included the likes of GamerGate, all in the interests of defanging and commodifying observant, critically-minded, tech-savvy young people (mostly men, mostly white) who otherwise would have found themselves on the progressive end of the political spectrum (as per their class affinity).
If you ask many of them, they will tell you that they were "red-pilled" after Occupy Wall Street so spooked the establishment that "wokism" was deployed to split the bottom 3 wealth quintiles and pit them against each other. My take is that the premise is correct (OWS did indeed push the elite to take class solidarity as a serious threat in a way that they hadn't previously), but that the conclusion is wrong. Rather, "red-pilling" was the intended remedy, and "meme magic" was the vector.
Case-in-point: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39905726 and parent.
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#87I think I remember seeing calls for pieces of this on the SomethingAwful forums back in the day, it was a collaborative art piece. There was a template with specific frames where the ball enters and leaves each square and it was up to forum members to fill in the rest and then it was all stitched together.
Yeah, this was a project of the SomethingAwful forums. There are more pieces than in the linked YTMND. My contribution had the balls teleporting Star Trek -style, but I'm not sure I kept a copy anywhere.
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#88I thought YTMND was shutting down?
Also still my favorite:
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#89Earlier quoted context omitted.
I mean from looking back as a non participant in either (way too young to even care), it seems like occupy Wallstreet and the alt right pretty much pretty much had a similar message, some people have used money and power to make the US far more unbalanced and it's grinding people down. So 2008 seems a good benchmark
The anger was palpable back then. The MSM swept it under the rug and replaced it with BLM. Being anti globalism was THE left wing thing back then. Trump sounds more like Michael Moore / Noam Chomsky than anything approaching right wing. He’s classic 90s left wing, especially the taking the jobs thing, that’s Michael Moore to a T.
Before BLM, OWS was hamstrung by the introduction of the Progressive Stack, ensuring that they could not effectively organize or even remain coherent: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Progressive_stack
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I think you give too much agency to 4chan. It's just a imageboard - an internet forum - that happened to have some subforums related to alt-right. Maybe it had (has) a bad influence on people, but it's hundred times smaller than Facebook, Twitter or Reddit. To say it has single handedly started a movement is a huge stretch.
> To say it has single handedly started a movement is a huge stretch. I disagree. Anonymous was an substantial movement. 4chan has long existed before the concept of facebook and to compare 4chan to the new trends of the likes such as facebook or reddit when 4chan is it's own, you can't. Reddit and Facebook have all been designed to cater to the masses; 4chan not so. To rule out that 4chan has never been influential…
4chan was founded about 5 months before Facebook and about 2 years before reddit. 2ch and Something Awful are quite a bit older, but it's debatable how much of the cultural DNA of each transferred over.