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Oxide Cloud Computer. No Cables. No Assembly. Just Cloud

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Re: Oxide Cloud Computer. No Cables. No Assembly. Just Cloud

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Post by calgoo »

Havoc wrote: post #76
dns_snek wrote: post #69

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It seems like they're vertically integrating everything from hardware to the hypervisor/orchestration layer (something that serves the same function as Kubernetes?) along with their own developer tooling for deploying and managing workloads. edit: And it seems like it's aimed at companies that don't want to pay cloud margins, but don't (yet) have the expertise to set up a production-worthy Kubernetes (or similar) clu…

The idea of a company buying an out of the box k8s because they’re not able to set it up themselves sounds insane to me. What’s the plan when it breaks? Send the server back?

You can check out Simplivity from HP that does something similar, but in a more traditional enterprise setup. We use them as local VMware and storage for factories and warehouses where there is need for compute and storage that needs to be close physically and we don’t want to bother with hardware maintenance.

Re: Oxide Cloud Computer. No Cables. No Assembly. Just Cloud

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Post by IshKebab »

Temporary_31337 wrote: post #75
steveklabnik wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not at the moment, but never say never.

There needs to be a dev kit of sorts. I’d be happy to recommend Oxide to some of our customers but not before I try it first. And I’m not buying a whole data centre just to play around?

Yeah definitely. I used to work for an AI hardware company that only sold $150k systems to "POA" customers. I think part of the reason they didn't do very well is it was completely inaccessible to normal people.

Re: Oxide Cloud Computer. No Cables. No Assembly. Just Cloud

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Post by vaylian »

dragonwriter wrote: post #80
vaylian wrote: post #68

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Does that mean that Oxide sells computers that are optimized for on-premise cloud deployments?

That’s exactly what this is advertising, yes.

Thanks. But as someone who isn't familiar with Oxide, this was not clear to me at all. The "Just Cloud" threw me off and I was reminded of shuttle.rs which also advertises easy deployment of (Rust) services. I could not see that this was supposed to be about on-premise hardware.

Re: Oxide Cloud Computer. No Cables. No Assembly. Just Cloud

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Post by bananapub »

vaylian wrote: post #65

I'm trying to make sense of what this is. I don't get what the unique selling point is. I understand that this is about server hosting. And from context I gather that this is about Rust. It seems that special/custom hardware is involved. And they advocate for buying instead of renting servers. But I can't figure out more than that. Who should be interested in this product? Does it make sense to compare this to AWS, G…

I don't understand why this exact comment is posted on every thread about them - it's not very complicated.

"Cloud computing" style systems are nice in some ways - you can just ask a computer to give you some virtual computers and virtual storage and it gives it to you. Whoever owns them can put quotas or pricing or whatever on you, but you can self-serve, and you don't have to care about replacing DIMMs or NVMe sticks or whatever.

Having some random American megacorp host things in a datacenter is good for some people, bad for others. You might not want to be in their legal jurisdiction, or you're legally not allowed to, or you just don't want to, or their prices for your volume are too high, or you don't want to be locked in to whatever future bad choices they make.

So, Oxide made racks of machines you can buy, plug in, and then have a cloud-style (virtual machine, virtual storage, virtual network) system at home.

I really really don't understand what is hard to understand.

Re: Oxide Cloud Computer. No Cables. No Assembly. Just Cloud

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Post by bionsystem »

Temporary_31337 wrote: post #75
steveklabnik wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not at the moment, but never say never.

There needs to be a dev kit of sorts. I’d be happy to recommend Oxide to some of our customers but not before I try it first. And I’m not buying a whole data centre just to play around?

Maybe they could rent a rack with a somewhat direct access on a per-month basis or something so we can POC around, but that could turn them into a cloud company which is probably not what they want.

Re: Oxide Cloud Computer. No Cables. No Assembly. Just Cloud

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Post by bananapub »

CamperBob2 wrote: post #54
athorax wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You were never their target audience. There is never one price off the shelf pricing for this kind of hardware

That's what they told Michael Dell, too.

...

dell famously doesn't have one price either.

Re: Oxide Cloud Computer. No Cables. No Assembly. Just Cloud

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Post by rcarmo »

bananapub wrote: post #84
vaylian wrote: post #65

I'm trying to make sense of what this is. I don't get what the unique selling point is. I understand that this is about server hosting. And from context I gather that this is about Rust. It seems that special/custom hardware is involved. And they advocate for buying instead of renting servers. But I can't figure out more than that. Who should be interested in this product? Does it make sense to compare this to AWS, G…

I don't understand why this exact comment is posted on every thread about them - it's not very complicated. "Cloud computing" style systems are nice in some ways - you can just ask a computer to give you some virtual computers and virtual storage and it gives it to you. Whoever owns them can put quotas or pricing or whatever on you, but you can self-serve, and you don't have to care about replacing DIMMs or NVMe stic…

Also, they provide end-to-end attestation on the entire software stack up to each workload. They can tell you exactly what firmware is running on each chip on their stack, etc. The hypervisor they use is pretty cool, too.

Re: Oxide Cloud Computer. No Cables. No Assembly. Just Cloud

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Post by rcarmo »

dns_snek wrote: post #69
vaylian wrote: post #65

I'm trying to make sense of what this is. I don't get what the unique selling point is. I understand that this is about server hosting. And from context I gather that this is about Rust. It seems that special/custom hardware is involved. And they advocate for buying instead of renting servers. But I can't figure out more than that. Who should be interested in this product? Does it make sense to compare this to AWS, G…

It seems like they're vertically integrating everything from hardware to the hypervisor/orchestration layer (something that serves the same function as Kubernetes?) along with their own developer tooling for deploying and managing workloads. edit: And it seems like it's aimed at companies that don't want to pay cloud margins, but don't (yet) have the expertise to set up a production-worthy Kubernetes (or similar) clu…

Why would you think they are limiting themselves to Kubernetes?

Re: Oxide Cloud Computer. No Cables. No Assembly. Just Cloud

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Post by imglorp »

panick21_ wrote: post #44
steveklabnik wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not at the moment, but never say never.

OxidePad Laptop product based on Helios with NeWS Window System. When?

I know Don Hopkins hangs out here sometimes, but the big question is did NeWS source code ever get liberated from the depths of Mordoracle?
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